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  1. PATSNUTme

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    #75 Jersey

    I noticed this morning that the Patriots are 6.5 point favorites vs the Jest. The only other "spread " that high is Jax playing at home vs Tenn.

    Considering the Jets are playing at home and the home field advnatage is usually worth 3 points, this means that they think the Patriots are 9.5 points better than the Jets.:eek:

    I don't gamble, so this means nothing to me. But from a pure football view point, I think that point spread is rather high. Against a division rival, on their field, first game of the year, I would not have expected to see a spread that high, 3 point tops.

    Do they know something that we don't?
     
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    They figure the money will all be coming in on the Patriots given all the hype in the offseason and they want more to come in on the Jets. When you figure they usually give 3 points for home field they really are favoring the Pats (would they have set the line at 9 if the Pats were at home against the Jets?).
     
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    #15 Jersey

    I took the Patriots as I think they will overwhelm the Jets, tho I didn't like the 1/2 point, so I bought it. What I thought was really off was Denver -3 at Buffalo. Is Buffalo really that good all of a sudden?
     
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    #22 Jersey

    I think that may have something to do with uncertainty with the Broncos rather than any perceived improvement by the Bills.


    I think Denver will be hard to predict at least for the first 1/4 of the season.
     
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    I would agree, I am really not sure how good Denver's qb will be. I wasn't really impressed with him last year. Although I do think Buffalo will suck.
     
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    #54 Jersey

    IMO the spread won't matter the Jets (and every team) the Patriots play are going to completely and totally jacked up for the game. The Jets have heard all week and all pre-season how good the Patriots are and how the division is out of reach.

    Other than 2001 I think this is going to take BB's best coaching performance, the Patriots have a huge bullseye on their back because of all the hype. The veteran heavy roster will really help.

    Expect a battle in NJ on Sunday. As usual the team with the better coach / QB combo will win most close games.

    Pats - 23 - Jets 20
     
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    If this were a playoff game on a neutral field, I would believe that the patriots are at least 10 points better than the jets. Two factors drive the spread down: it is a home game for the jets and they are a division rival.

     
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    I agree. I just want us coming out without any injury and with a W, however small/big it might be. GO PATS!!
     
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    Don't underestimate the Jets please, or 'overestimate' NE.

    I would like for us to go in and put up an impressive, 'all phases of the game' win....
     
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    As this is a divisional game with two teams who've been ramping up a competitive dislike ever since Mangina took over the reigns of the Jests, anything can happen. This will be a typical battle, and point spreads for these types of games are done to stimulate heavier betting for one team.
     
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    Wow. 6.5? Were I a gambling man I'd probably take the Jets.
     
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    The important thing is that the team will not overlook the jets. The team ALWAYS plays one game at a time. And, BTW, they understand that division games count double.

    However, that does not mean that posters should not make their own assessments based on the quality of the teams. I put us better by a couple of tourchdowns, 10 points on their turf (27-17 sounds about right).
     
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    I think this game might be the "closer than we think b/c it's the jets, a division rival, they almost always play us tight" game many here are describing - for the first quarter or so. And then the Patriots take over and win and cover. Easily.
     
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    Well, right now the money is betting that Chad Pennington who has looked bad in the preseason will continue to look bad, that the rookie at guard will be abused by Pats D-line, and Thomas Jones is not ready to go.

    So the spread has continued to grow to even out the betting. What would any of us think would be a comfotable lead against the Jets?
     
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    #15 Jersey

    I understand the division rival thing, the animosity view, first game of the season on home turf, but your kidding me with taking the Jets with 6.5? How many preseason games have we seen the first team offense take the field. This team will march down the field and put points on the board. Do you think the Jets will be able to do the same against our defense. When we played the Jets last year, they scored on some fairly freaky plays. Then we met in the playoffs.........now, have they improved that much?
     
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    I like the Pats in this game, even at 6½. The loss of Seymour and Harrison will hurt a bit, but they have adequate replacements..

    The thing is, most of these games against the Jets are grind-'em-out affairs, which means a lot of emphasis will be placed on the warfare in the trenches.

    When the Jets have the ball, watch the left side of that line. How well that particular side holds up will be exceeding crucial to that team's effort and level of success. If CP is harassed all day, it will be a very long day for them.

    When the Pats have the ball, in this game anyway, the emphasis, I believe, will stress the run early on. The Jets and Mangini play this team tough, so I look for the early establishment of the running game.

    I look for something around 24 - 13, Pats.

    It's good to have the regular season back with us!
     
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    I think NE will win. I'd like to see NE win easily. I just think a combination of NY winning, or NE winning by fewer than 7 points is more likely than a big win.

    Everyone thought they'd destroy Buffalo to start the season last year and they eked out a 19-17 win. Does that have predicative value? Not really, but it shows that mismatches don't always end in blowouts.
     
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    There are four reasons why I dont think you can compare last year's tough win vs. Buffalo to this year's opener:

    1.) Moss
    2.) Stallworth
    3.) Thomas
    4.) Welker

    Bottom line is the Jets can't stop the run and won't be able to keep the defense off of Chadwick. As long as the Pats dont turn the ball over, they will cruise.
     
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    #12 Jersey

    NO interdivisional game should be more than 5 points,Teams know each other pretty well and its NEVER a good decision to go with the favorite who is more than 5 points favored.

    6.5 is ridiculous
    3 1/2 seems to be more realistic

    New England 24
    New York Jets 20

    Thats sounds about the final score IMO
     
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    Seems high. I put the pats as a 3.5 point favorite.
     
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