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I don't know about you, but I have a real hunch about that Malcolm Willliams kid.
Who the hell is that? I'm guessing Herzlich instead!
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I don't know about you, but I have a real hunch about that Malcolm Willliams kid.
you had a great list, but i hate to break it to you...the cannon pick doesn't count because he was the 11th of 12 in your list of 9. :bricks:
And the winning score was: 2.
Not a huge number, but in a year when 2 of the Pats picks were too obscure for NFL.com to even know their height, very respectable. And as a group, we put in a strong showing -- I counted 30 different posters who got at least one pick right, and 5 tied for the win. Your 2011 PatsFans draft champions:
jays52
Seneschal2
jmt57
OldEngland
Thirdbasekid24
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Vereen was the most common correct pick with 14 votes. Solder got 12, Dowling 7, Ridley and Mallett one apiece. After round 3, nada.
Come back next year for another round of ritual humbling!
Ryan Kerrigan, Purdue - went pick 16, I think some sort of trade could have been worked out, also Robery Quinn was within reach
Cameron Heyward, Ohio State - could have picked
Orlando Franklin, Miami - went 46, good have picked at 33 or traded back
Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech - went 38, may not have been available
John Moffit, Nebraska - went 75, in round 3, was available
Bruce Carter, North Carolina - went pick 40, may not have been available
Andre Holmes, Hillsdale - went undrafted
Allen Bailey, Miami - went 86, was available
Buster Skrine, Tennessee-Chattanooga - was available, went pick 137
Mr. hindsight... this column is called "I still like my draft better"
Test 1 - were the players available - results, most were available
Test 2 - are the drafted players making an impact, it is tough to get analysis on most of the players but Kerrigan was player of the month, I will try to find info on the rest but will start and end my argument with "Kerrigan was player of the month"
It would have added a youth infusion to the front seven. The problem is re-building a front seven takes years, and the Patriots haven't made the necessary investments and are forced to try and catch lightening in a bottle with has been vets (Ellis, Haynesworth, Warren, etc.).
On the flip side they invested significantly in the secondary, the jury is still out but the verdict is leaning heavily towards poor talent evaluation.
It may be too late for Brady but hopefully this is some sort of lesson learned, the front seven requires constant grooming, lots of draft picks and a free agents sprinkled in. Just my opinion but even in the pass heavy NFL I would rather have a superior front seven and an ok secondary than the inverse.
At this point I have to question the Patriots team building approach and overall strategy. The drafts are disjointed and without a clear pattern, other than trade back, make lots of picks and spread the risk across a lot of mediocre talent.
Couldn't agree more.
I understand that Solder has been invaluable because of the season-threatening back injury to Vollmer
(the reason why nobody had him rated as worthy of a top-60 pick), but either Kerrigan or Cam Jordan
sure would look good in our front-7 right now, and Solder still might've been avail. at 28.
But even if Solder's the pick at 17, then either Brooks Reed or Jabaal Sheard would've been a helluva lot
better than glass-made Ras IR Dowling at 33...or Justin Houston, Martez Wilson or Allen Bailey
instead of MIA RB Vereen at 56...or Chris Carter, Pernell McPhee, Chykie Brown or Tyler Sash
instead of UDFA-talent, blocking-only TE Lee Smith...or Mark Herzlich, Greg Romeus, Cliff Matthews,
Jeremy Beal, Brandon Bair, Pierre Allen, Ugo Chinasa, Lawrence Guy, Eric Hagg, Jeron Johnson,
Joe Lefeged, or Jerrod Tarrant instead of the pile of useless garbage that was Mal Williams.
Couldn't agree more.
But even if Solder's the pick at 17, then either Brooks Reed or Jabaal Sheard would've been a helluva lot
better than glass-made Ras IR Dowling at 33...or Justin Houston, Martez Wilson or Allen Bailey
instead of MIA RB Vereen at 56...or Chris Carter, Pernell McPhee, Chykie Brown or Tyler Sash
instead of UDFA-talent, blocking-only TE Lee Smith...or Mark Herzlich, Greg Romeus, Cliff Matthews,
Jeremy Beal, Brandon Bair, Pierre Allen, Ugo Chinasa, Lawrence Guy, Eric Hagg, Jeron Johnson,
Joe Lefeged, or Jerrod Tarrant instead of the pile of useless garbage that was Mal Williams.
Couldn't agree more.
I understand that Solder has been invaluable because of the season-threatening back injury to Vollmer
(the reason why nobody had him rated as worthy of a top-60 pick), but either Kerrigan or Cam Jordan
sure would look good in our front-7 right now, and Solder still might've been avail. at 28.
But even if Solder's the pick at 17, then either Brooks Reed or Jabaal Sheard would've been a helluva lot
better than glass-made Ras IR Dowling at 33...or Justin Houston, Martez Wilson or Allen Bailey
instead of MIA RB Vereen at 56...or Chris Carter, Pernell McPhee, Chykie Brown or Tyler Sash
instead of UDFA-talent, blocking-only TE Lee Smith...or Mark Herzlich, Greg Romeus, Cliff Matthews,
Jeremy Beal, Brandon Bair, Pierre Allen, Ugo Chinasa, Lawrence Guy, Eric Hagg, Jeron Johnson,
Joe Lefeged, or Jerrod Tarrant instead of the pile of useless garbage that was Mal Williams.
I have to admit that the more Solder plays, the more comfortable I am with the decision to draft him at 17, esp. when taking Vollmer's season (career?) threatening back issues under consideration.
That still does not excuse Bill, however, from ignoring the front 7 or safety positions during the rest of the draft.
I have to admit that the more Solder plays, the more comfortable I am with the decision to draft him at 17, esp. when taking Vollmer's season (career?) threatening back issues under consideration.
That still does not excuse Bill, however, from ignoring the front 7 or safety positions during the rest of the draft.
Ok, who do you think he should have taken at what spot?
Can we at least wait for Vollmer to go on IR before we say that this injury could derail his career?
It's tricky, because the most obvious answer to the front 7 question is Jabaal Sheard at #33. The problem is that would have totally ruled out safeties. IMO there were only 3 decent safety prospects left in the whole draft by #33 (including Dowling), and they were all long gone before #56.
So if you take your safety at #33, who's your difference-making front 7 guy at #56? The biggest name left is Justin Houston, but I didn't want him at all. IOW, it had to be either S or DL/OLB...unless you pass on the offer of a 1st + 2nd to take Muhammad Wilkerson or Cameron Heyward at #28.