Brit patriot
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
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I think your point was that a player whose total package is a lot of short or negative runs plus a lot of long runs is not as valuable when he doesn't break the long run.
Now, you could make the argument that never having a good QB made it easier to defend Sanders, but if you look at what he did, its not impressive.
6 playoff games, 1 win in which he was awesome (27-169)
In the 5 losses, these were his numbers
rushes-yards-long
12-69-47
11-44-23
13--1-7
10-40-9
18-65-15
That is 5 games of rushing 64 times for 217 yards, and a 3.4 average, and if we apply your consideration of the long run aspect, and take away the 47 yarder on his other 63 carries in those 5 losses he averaged 2.7 ypc.
This is the heart of what you allude to. Lets call the 47 yarder an single handed TD. Is one TD in 5 games enough to overshadow 2.7 ypc and an average of only 34 yards per game otherwise?
Ridley is a better RB than Ben and he is certainly more explosive. Ridley just has not been a threat to rip off long runs, I do not understand why people make that out to me thinking he sucks.
Dillion was a beast and he could rip off the long runs.
Dillon could rip off long ones, but so could almost any RB given the blocking.
We're talking about being a threat to break big ones. Dillon had 8 20+ yard runs in 2004 and just 5 over the next two seasons. That's nothing amazing.
Ridley, not known for big runs, had 6 runs over 20 yards in 2012.
So Dillon wasn't a legit homerun threat. He was a grinder and would break a bigger one if given the space.
Shane Vereen catching Wheel route in practice hopes he does the same in actual games he dropped a couple of Big gainers on that same route last year. I'll give him a pass with the cast last year.
He had his knee taped yesterday I believeHmm. Any word on what happened to Boyce?
Did it look smooth and crisp (assuming you're there)?
It was in the game he ran 13 times for -1 yard and his team lost 16-12.
It was in the 5 of 6 games he rushed for under 70 yards.
Its the same as the Marino argument. If you want to give him credit for 'carrying the team' you have to recognize that the reason they fell short is that he failed to carry them in the post season.
Barry Sanders post season play is not HOF caliber, for whatever reason you wish to explain it with.
As far as rookies, Cooks is definitely further along than any rookie I saw in NE at this point of camp.
I agree. As said in a previous post, Barry is why the Lions made it to the playoffs. If he could have minimized the negatively plays, I think he could have carried them farther. I think Adrian Peterson has done more with a significantly worse, more dysfunctional team in a passing era.
Dillion was a punishing runner, did you watch him or are you just looking at stats? And yes, he was at the end of his career with the Patriots.
Nick Underhill is now covering the Saints. I found this to be interesting, though not surprising:
https://twitter.com/UnderhillAdv/status/494321703493722114