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    Since the Pats aren't making any moves of their own, us Pats fans are forced to predict the moves they will eventually make. They have plenty of holes to fill and, make no mistake about it, they will address all of them eventually (at least to some extent). Like all but one year I can recall, the Pats are doing nothing in the first week of free agency. But when they do get busy, here's what will unfold... (or who they will consider)...

    Running Back-
    The free agent list is dwindling. I think they will make a trade, much like they did for Corey, to get a younger backup who can eventually take Dillon's place. I can think of two talented and young RB's who don't have a ton of value to their current teams...

    Prediction:
    William Green (trade)
    TJ Duckett (trade)
    Steven Davis

    Wide Receiver-
    Lots of work to be done here. We need a possesion type #2 WR to replace Givens; a speedy WR to stretch the field (like Davis); and a few more...

    Prediction: Possesion WR
    Keyshawn Johnson
    Eric Moulds
    Marc Boerigter

    Prediction: Speed WR
    David Patten
    Peerless Price
    Tim Carter
    Antonio Chapman

    Predcition: Others
    Troy Brown
    Tim Dwight
    Josh Reed

    Offensive Line-
    We need to address the RT and RG positions as well as add some depth at tackle.

    Predictions: RT
    Jon Runyan
    Jason Fabini
    Tom Ashworth
    Kenyatta Walker
    Marc Columbo

    Predictions: RG
    Stephen Neal
    (fill internally)
    Barry Stokes
    Rex Tucker

    D-line-
    This is the one spot we don't need to make any moves- except signing Seymour to an extension. We could sign a backup NT but we could also look to the draft.

    Linebackers-
    There isn't much in the way of 3-4 OLB's. I was hoping they'd sign Fujita but that didn't happen. Now we have long shots like Arrington or Peterson- both of whom would be great but I think are unlikely. I think it's more likely we try to fill the ILB spot again and move Vrabel back outside.

    Predictions: ILB
    Jamie Sharper
    Sam Cowart
    Warrick Holdman
    Sam Cowart

    Cornerbacks-
    We have some young talent on the roster but could use a solid vet to fill a spot next to Samuel.

    Predictions: CB
    Ahmed Plummer
    Will Allen
    Andre Dyson
    Renaldo Hill
    Ray Mickens

    Safety-
    Harrison is on his way back but his health is obviously a huge concern. We obvioulsy need to add some bodies here but the question is... do we go for a typical SS type like Harrison or do we go after the smaller cover safeties like we've been drafting? Would we sign someone like Marcus Coleman?

    Predictions: SS
    Tank Williams
    Tebucky Jones
    Deke Cooper
    Scott McGarran

    I guess this is really a list of possibilities as opposed to predictions
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    I say me thinks bill and scott are waiting till draft day..
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    In looking at your list it kind of hit home just how many more holes there are now in this team than there were just 2 weeks ago. BB has a SH1T LOAD of work to do. And add kicker to the list because we all know that's coming.
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    Tank Williams seems good to me, based on his measurables - height, weight, Madden rating. (I'm only half-joking.)
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    Keep an eye on Brian Finneran WR Atlanta.
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    He already re-signed with Atlanta.
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    Oh. Hadn't heard. Keep your eye on him anyway. He'll be the one getting killed by Mike Vick.
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    You mean to fill the holes through the draft? So what's happened to the "don't expect rookies to contribute in their first year" policy? The holes are there now.
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    He's off the market he resigned days ago. Tom Ashworth is in contract negotiations with the Bucs.
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    We already have guys on the roster that are as good as most of these guys

    I think we are getting caught up in the woe is me stuff too much. Maybe Runyon or Fabini and maybe Jamie Sharper. Definitely Eric Moulds. The rest of those guys are also rans. They aren't better than what we have.

    We will get a couple players out of the draft.

    I think there is a lot of over reaction here.

    Let's all calm down and have a little confidence in BB/SP.

    Also about Vinatieri, he is STILL ONLY A KICKER.
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    When has BB ever had that policy? Look at Eugene Wilson, Asante Samuel, Randall Gay, Logan Mankins, Nick Kaczur, and on and on.

    We should be able to get at least 1 LB in the draft that can contribute as a rookie, possibly two. I personally would like Bobby Carpenter (OLB/ILB OSU) in round 1, or possibly Chad Greenway if he falls. There are also a couple of decent ILB prospects, and some DE/OLB guys who could be had later in the draft (round 2 and later). If the Pats have to go to a 4-3 defense for a while, while a rookie learns the ropes, that shouldn't be an issue - the team definitely has the talent on the DL to play a 4-3 for a while.

    As for RB, I see no reason at all to trade for one (unless perhaps we could get a good deal for DOminique Davis). Faulk, Dillon, and Pass all still have at least 1-3 more decent years in them, and can do running back by committee fine if Dillon isn't healthy enough to be a full-time back. Heath Evans is young, and a servicable backup. If a RB is available in the draft who is a good bargain, it would be worth taking him (maybe Joseph Addai in round 2, or Jerrius Norwood in round 3 or 4).

    For WR, it might be nice to bring in a veteran since the draft isn't real deep there, at least for #1 WRs, and it would be nice to be able to focus on LBs in the draft. Taking a sleeper WR later in the draft would be nice though, and there are several. Chad Jackson is my favorite WR in the draft, and he'll likely be there at #21, but I'd prefer an LB there.

    I don't see CB and SS as significant needs right now. Artrell Hawkins, Gus Scott, and James Sanders should be fine at SS if Rodney can't come back.

    At CB, Samuel, Gay, and Hobbes are a good trio, even if Poole isn't back. It would be nice to have a decent 4th CB, and if one isn't found in FA, then they can look to the draft (but not in the first two rounds, as it's not a big priority).

    On the OL, there are many guys in the draft who could be steals on day 2. A veteran RT might be nice, although Kaczur should be fine there.
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    Don't forget about Ryan Claridge, who had injury problems last year and was effectively red shirted.
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    I would spend alot of money to get T.O.
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    It's easy to say he's only a kicker when you're used to his clutch kicks and dependability. I remember the Pats losing plenty of games when Missin' Sisson was our kicker. Nobody was shaking it off saying, "he's only a kicker".
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    Pretty consistently, I should say. Wilson (in place of Milloy), Samuel (though he only played nickel), Gay (in place of Law/Poole) and Kaczur (in place of Light) only played because of injuries/unplanned cuts during the season.

    Of those you mention only Mankins was a starter coming out of camp, IIRC. OK, other rookies (Watson and Graham) were injured during their rookie seasons, but plenty of others, even those drafted high (Warren, Hill, even Wilfork) either did not start or had to share playing time their first season.
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    ahmed plummer is on the 49ers, patten is still on the redskins. i can see fabini, runyan is prob gonna resign with philly. but we dont really need any tackles. gorin, kaczur, light are a solid bunch. i wouldnt even touch stephen davis. will green has too many issues. duckett would take too much to get. an rb to look for is VERNON HAYNES the backup rb from pittsburgh. they have a log jam at rb and he could do something like what heath evens did but on a more consistent basis. i would love tank williams, he'd be a great fit here. hell no on tebucky, been there done that. not sure about cooper, mcgarren. i wouldnt mind andre dyson(but i think it would take a trade, not sure). allen would be a good fit, mickens is too old, hill unproven. for WR, i really like JOSH REED, hes in the givens mold, but a better blocker. hes very underrated. price is no more than a KR, as is chapman. i wouldnt mind keyshawn, bill has a relationship with him i believe. i think jamie sharper might be at the end of the line, but the guy lead the league in tackles 2 years ago.
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    Missin Sisson there is a name from the past. His last year didn't we lose something like 6 games by 6 points or less? that was the year we went 6 - 10 before the first playoff year if memory serves me correctly.

    I still can't see giving him 3.5 mil or any number that starts with a 3. 2.5 is what he is worth in this market especially with all of the available kickers. Mare might be available soon, Josh Brown etc. My first choice is Adam, but the money needs to be realistic.
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    Ok guys, I've been looking over the available free agents and have found eight that interest me:

    Job Putzier (would be a great replacement for Fauria)
    Julian Peterson
    Jamie Sharper
    De Shea Townsend
    John Runyon
    Jason Fabini
    Mack Strong
    Keshawn Johnson

    What do you think? Which of these guys could help us?
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    No TO

    TO is the anti-patriot. He will never werr blue and silver of Pats. Ever
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    Putzier would be okay, though I still like a draft TE. I have concerns for Peterson's price, agent (Postons I believe), and recovery from his achilles injury. Sharper, Runyon, and Fabini are all worth a look. Mack Strong is camp competition for Pass. Keshawn I have mixed feeling about, he is a good receiver, but I can't say I like his behavior as a team mate.
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    Putzier was a starter all last season for Denver who would want to go from starter to 3rd string and take a third of the cash?
    Sharper- no just no
    Townsend- is a guy who needs to be in a system that highlights his skills effectively if he were in more of a free style system with a sort of play the game yourself type he would not be in football, he's worth a look and has already paid a visit to Foxboro i believe
    Runyan-is a great RT for run blocking, a mamoth at 330+lbs. but his pass protection needs working a bit. Dante should be able to help him out a bit. Pats are believed to be interested.
    Fabini- is the better option that Runyan and not only is younger but a better pass protector too, also has seen interest from the Pats
    Strong- we would never use, people under value Patrick Pass
    K-Johnson-probably wants to much money.
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    I'd take Runyan if he'd move inside and let Kaczur protect the edge. I'm out of date on Sharper, what is your thinking?
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    Has anyone seen Hart Lee Dykes around?:eek:
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    Guys, here is a list of all free agents this year. There are a LOT of players:
    http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/fa?null

    Maybe one of us will notice a name that has been overlooked so far.


    I imagine the Pats would end up signing relatively unknown players because they would be cheaper. Any player who has any kind of name recognition will have multiple suitors and will require a little extra to get them to sign.

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    Runyan cant play Guard. If you remember when he was with the Eagles they had him at guard and he was a mess, penalties for false starts and holding like it was raining yellow. He became solid at Tackle but pass blocking became his downfall either way.

    Sharper was dead last year. Nothing to give to a Super Bowl team Seattle thats why hes a FA. Its going to be his tenth year and he looks on the verge of backup ST's player.
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    Thankee kindly!
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    Jerry Azumah might be worth the look for a nickle dime player.

    Still love Mark Campbell and Jed Weaver for the third TE spot both would be superb ST/Blockers.

    Tim Carter could be a diamond in the rough. So could Antonio Chatman.
    Andre Dyson was a hot commodity last season and was released this offseason im not sure what happened there though.

    I can see a ton of guys but this takes a lot of time and energy.
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    Here's who I found interesting on ESPN's free agent list:

    Running Back - Michael Bennet, Tony Fisher, Maurice Morris, JR Redmond
    Wide Receiver - Tim Carter, Tim Dwight, Quincy Morgan, Peerless Price, Josh Reed
    Offensive Line - Ron Stone, Jason Fabini, Damion McIntosh, Jon Runyan, Rex Tucker
    Linebackers - Sam Cowart, Warrick Holdman, Jamie Winborn, Chris Claiborne, Orlando Ruff, Brandon Short.
    Cornerbacks - Roderick Hood, Jimmy Williams, Andre Dyson, Will Allen, Jamar Fletcher
    Safety - Tank Williams, Lance Schulters, Tebucky Jones, Marcus Coleman,

    I generally tried to list young players under 30, but I also included old guys who might come cheap. I realized I wasn't very knowledgeable on players in certain positions (like offensive linemen), and I also found that aside from statistics, it was hard for me to figure out which players might be a good fit for the Pats' system (which made it hard to identify a potential Mike Vrabel, for example).
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    I'd take Peterson, and one of his agents is suspended I think. He MIGHT be able to come here and work something out. But I think we'll be OK without him, and I think it's highly unlikely we go after him. Let us not forget, Vrabel is a better OLB than Willie Mac. Yes, he did play a position before he moved inside folks.

    I really want Tank Williams, and I REALLY want a WR now. I think BB, being close to Johnson, may bery well be able to work something out with him.
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    Peterson is young and great; kind of like when Colvin was a free agent. I hate that the Postons represent him, but maybe something can be worked out. I read he's visiting Miami though...


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