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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Although retired, Scarnecchia had significant input on offensive linemen in the draft, helping scout and evaluate prospects.Dante liked uber-athletic (for an O-linemen) 300 pound guys. Since he left we've drafted, I think it's, 5 much bigger guys with average at best athleticism.
Totally forgot about those chain of events. Good call.For what it's worth, we cut Cameron Fleming early last year and put him on the PS. It wasn't until OL started dropping like flies that we brought Fleming back. We didn't want Fleming on the 53. Unfortunately we had to have him.
It was noted Scar was very influential with the Mason and Jackson picksAlthough retired, Scarnecchia had significant input on offensive linemen in the draft, helping scout and evaluate prospects.
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And that's only for passing. Could never run consistently.This O-line has really only looked fine when Brady has been able to get rid of the ball in two seconds since Gugs got here.
Except that ... It has been noted that Scar was heavily involved in the recruiting, scouting and drafting process of the guys we got the last 2 yearsDante liked uber-athletic (for an O-linemen) 300 pound guys. Since he left we've drafted, I think it's, 5 much bigger guys with average at best athleticism. Googs was coaching players thought to fit his system. Sure Vollmer & Solder were Dante's guys, but the interior O-line was all Googs' guys and Vollmer and Solder missed significant time.
Additionally, Googs was the O-line coach who put the prospects through their paces at the 2014 & 2015 combine. I don't believe for a second that Googs "had no input on" the OL we drafted, as some have suggested.
Maybe he's blind in his right eye and didn't know he was there?he did it repeatedly, one would think it wouldn't take but twice to figure out that you just don't stand there with your arm out which resulted in a hit or a sack.
He went back to Iowa didn't he?
I think the new OL coach will be Brian Ferentz
I think the new OL coach will be Brian Ferentz
Except that ... It has been noted that Scar was heavily involved in the recruiting, scouting and drafting process of the guys we got the last 2 years
I don't think this is about Googs v. Scar guys. I think its about game prep and in-game adjustments.
Jackson very much fits the Mold for "Googs guys" but Stork and Mason and Andrews (UDFA) are pretty much inline with the "uber athletic" guys (Mason especially)
In agreement, I follow the draft process pretty intensely ... Up until today every Olinemen we drafted had 1 on 1 sessions with Scar. I just really don't want to start a war with other members based on Goog and what I've heard about him. Bottom line is..his job was to get the line to block, he failed, he's gone. Next.Jackson and Fleming were both worked out by Dante personally in the last two years. On some level those two -- even if they dont entirely fit the model -- got a stamp of approval from him.
It was noted Scar was very influential with the Mason and Jackson picks
I agree. I just don't get why its so hard for people to believe that Goog hadn't really gained BBs trust and therefore was not given the keys and had to follow orders . There's no saying that goog if he did a good job would over time pick up more responsibility and have more of an influence.I don't think this is about Googs v. Scar guys. I think its about game prep and in-game adjustments.
In agreement, I follow the draft process pretty intensely ... Up until today every Olinemen we drafted had 1 on 1 sessions with Scar. I just really don't want to start a war with other members based on Goog and what I've heard about him. Bottom line is..his job was to get the line to block, he failed, he's gone. Next.
I remember reading Scar was very impressed with Flemming's IQ.Jackson and Fleming were both worked out by Dante personally in the last two years. On some level those two -- even if they dont entirely fit the model -- got a stamp of approval from him.