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    Didn't give the guy much of a chance did they? Coaching Carousel keeps on spinning.

    Pete Carroll is at forefront - Per Chris Mortensen
    Wants to bring Jeremy Bates - {USC OC} with him to Seattle
    Leslie Frazier turns down interview request
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    Re: OT: Seahawks Fire Jim Mora

    Playoffs? P-Playoffs?! You kiddin' me...playoffs? :singing:
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    Re: OT: Seahawks Fire Jim Mora

    nope the firing was way to early
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    Re: OT: Seahawks Fire Jim Mora

    remember he was with the team for the all of Holmgren's last year so this is really his second year
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    Re: OT: Seahawks fire Jim Mora

    Not surprising. Heard he rubbed everyone the wrong way in Seattle. It also looked like he let the players run the damn place.
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    OT: Pete Carroll returning?

    to possibly coach the Seahawks, according to Chris Mortensen's sources it would be a surprise if he didnt agree to a deal as there is mutual interest. Bates may also be coming with him.
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    Re: OT: Seahawks fire Jim Mora

    Did poor Mare ever get out from that bus that Mora threw him under?
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    Re: Pete Carroll Returning?

    Seattle canned Mora to get Carroll?


    Lions and Raiders fans must be laughing their asses off while celebrating the Seahawks taking the reins as "Worst organization in the NFL".
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    Re: OT: Seahawks fire Jim Mora

    Pete Carroll is at the forefront of this job - Per Chris Mortensen
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    Re: Pete Carroll Returning?

    Little Mora has done nothing as a HC, I'm not sure if Petey will be successful in the NFL in his next try but based on his time at USC I'd try him over Mora.
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    Re: OT: Seahawks fire Jim Mora

    LMAO...If they go after Pete Carrol I will die laughing. Watching that clown destroy what he has at USC to flunk again in the NFL.

    So why did they hire Mora anymore? I think everyone saw this coming as a bad hire, but they didn't even stick with their guy...So why the hell did they hire him a year ago? If I was a Seahawks fan I'd feel like the season was absolutely wasted, a total year of absolute nothing.
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    Re: Pete Carroll Returning?

    The only way I can see Pete Carroll leaving USC is if he needs to pull a John Calipari and hightail it out of town one step ahead of the NCAA posse.
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    Re: Pete Carroll Returning?

    Carroll hasn't done any more as an NFL HC than Mora.
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    Re: Pete Carroll Returning?

    Here's a link to the story. It's also at USAToday.

    His name gets floated every year or so after his success with the Trojans, but it never happens. A head coach at the college level is well-paid, omnipotent as far as leverage over players, doesn't need to manage money and contracts, and needs only keep the money source (trustees/administration) happy to stay coaching.

    He has seen the NFL and didn't do particularly well there, so what's the incentive to return? I guess if USC's program is tanking and in a downward spiral now, that might be an incentive to go elsewhere, but any NFL career will likely not have the longevity a college career would. He is a genuinely nice guy, which means he will have issues with professional players much like Marv Lewis traditionally does as a "players'" coach..
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    Re: Pete Carroll Returning?

    IF this past year is USC "tanking" than I'd hate to see them when they're good.

    Why is he going to leave where he is the most loved in the world on the west coast, doing what he;s doing. Let them see a couple seasons of Pete the poodle in the NFL and suddenly those USC days seem far away. But if this can end this Trojan run I'm all for it :)
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    Re: Pete Carroll Returning?

    Clearly - but he has a better resume at this point and I would consider him to be an intriguing hire at this point for an NFL team.
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    Re: Pete Carroll Returning?

    I think Brian Billick may be getting a call soon up there.

    Billick was a pretty decent HC.
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    Re: Pete Carroll Returning?

    Mora had one season as overseer of the M*A*S*H unit that was Seattle. Carroll's failed at multiple stops in the NFL and is in trouble at the college level because he can't seem to control his team enough for it to follow the rules. Firing Mora so that the incoming front office man has a clean slate was something I could understand, even if I questioned the wisdom of doing it. Firing Mora, hiring Carroll, and then bringing in the new top dog is just bad management.
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    Re: Pete Carroll Returning?

    I know many here will disagree, but I honestly don't think that Pete Carroll has clearly established that he isn't qualified to be a good NFL HC.

    First, let me state the obvious -- BB is to Pete Carroll what Red Auerbach is to Pitino or something.

    That said, unlike Pitino Carroll has never had a reasonably fair shot in the NFL. His one year with the Jets barely counts. His three years here were marked by two things mostly:

    1. a GM who undercut him at every opportunity

    2. a GM who absolutely SUCKED at drafting players.

    I'm not sure that BB could have done that much better than Carroll's 10-6, 9-7 and 8-8 records if he had been stuck with Bobby Grier either, is really what I'm saying.
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    Re: OT: Seahawks fire Jim Mora

    Yeah, I've hated this guy ever since that.
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    Re: Pete Carroll Returning?

    Carrol only got one year in NY. He was so-so, at best, here but that was 10 years ago and he has had a smidgen of success since; albeit not in the NFL.
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    Re: Pete Carroll Returning?

    But this is for an NFL gig.
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    Re: Pete Carroll Returning?

    We have found out that Carroll is a great college coach and what makes him a great college coach makes him a poor NFL coach. Players in Seattle are already chomping at the bit to see if they hire a new GM to go with it so they can "sneek up the backstairs" to his office to go around Carroll.

    Sorry Carroll is "great in the living room" (i.e. talk up high school prospects to come to USC) and can fire up young players, but his "Jacked and Pumped" act is the exact opposite of what works in the NFL. NFL players don't need a buddy or father figure, they need a leader and a task master.
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    Re: Pete Carroll Returning?

    ^This.

    This is kind of weird because last night on NFL Network, it was Top 10 Coaches Who Belong in College (or something like that) and he was on as number 9. His "rah rah" act does not translate well in the NFL.
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    Re: Pete Carroll Returning?

    You forgot how Carroll had GM who blasted Barry Manalow records through the head set system to make him blow every two minute drill and get the plays in late almost all the time. And remember the game the GM made Carroll force Bledsoe to take a knee with like a minute twenty in the half and the Pats on like the 20. All of Carroll's problems were all Bobby Grier's fault from personnel decisions to play calling to clock management.

    Sorry, Carroll was a horrible coach. Grier made matters worse, but Carroll made Herm Edwards look like the master of the two minute drill.
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    Re: OT: Seahawks fire Jim Mora

    Funny, I was going to mention in the thread about Mangina not being fired that generally I don't think a coach should ever be fired after a single season, unless he goes 0-16 or he's Mangina. And now this happens.

    So what happens if the guy from Minnesota turns them down? Pete Carroll would be nuts to take this or any pro job. Nothing against the guy, in fact I like him, but he's not meant to be a coach in the NFL.
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    Re: Pete Carroll Returning?

    Right, yeah, I forgot :rolleyes:

    I'm not saying that Petey is a good bet to be a top HC in the NFL. But his failure in NY and mediocrity in NE were over 10 years ago. His success one level down since then makes him an intriguing candidate IMO.
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    Re: Pete Carroll Returning?

    Why would Carroll leave USC where he is pretty much legendary status for another chance to fail in the NFL and knock his approval rating down again.
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    No way Carroll comes back unless he has final say on personnel. He has said that in the past.

    That FO in NJ was a mess in 1994. Steinberg had stomach cancer and when he left his duties, Carroll lost his political cover.

    He got passed over for the 49ers gig b/c they wanted an offensive guy as HC and had had enough of a defensive guy leading the team (Siefert) which led them to Mariucci.

    We all know what Grier did/din't do which hurt Carroll.

    Clearly, Carroll isn't close to BB-quality but to say he was awful and terrible is a bit harsh IMO....
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    Re: Pete Carroll Returning?

    Hes run out of co-eds to live with ;) (according to Weis)
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