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    Would New England have an interest in signing him? You could pair him with Chung as the new starters at safety.



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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA

    They already have the other starting safety in Meriweather. If Atogwe were signed, which I doubt, he would start over Chung, not Meriweather.
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA

    He is coming from major surgery

    so you want to offer a pick, a big contract and cut say mcgown and sanders in the 2nd cut date so you can keep him ?
    sounds like a plan must be the rodney harrison 2.
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA

    We don't need him. Safety is already deep with us and I'm looking forward to see what Chung can do this year.
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA

    That's not right. The only way he can become unrestricted is if the Rams rescind the tender offer.
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA

    That's not true, because that would Mean mankind would be a ufa too if he didn't sign the tender. And no one would sign their tender before June 1 and it would become a 2nd deeper FA period. He's only free if the rams say he's free. Plus saftey is not something I'm worried about.
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA

    Not true. The Rams used the low tender on Atogwe. He will be unrestricted on 6/1/2010. Also, just read a nice Chicago Trib article claiming that since he has come into the league, Atogwe has had a hand in 41 turnovers ( FF, INT ), first in the NFL. Reed of Baltimore is second over that time frame with 39.
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA

    I could be wrong, but I think Atogwe only becomes an unrestricted free agent if the Rams opt not to give him a second tender offer that will equal 110% of his 2009 base salary, which was the franchise tag.

    And no need for Atogwe here, safety is our deepest position. And there would be zero chance Meriweather moved back to the bench. If the Pats signed Atogwe, he would start over Chung/Sanders.
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA

    Well, I would've Chung at strong safety and Atogwe at free safety. But if Atogwe is damaged goods. Then I can see the little interest in him by some of you. And he'll turn twenty-nine next month.
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA

    If we needed a safety I think BB would have signed Darren Sharper months ago
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA

    Even anaylists like Wyche get it wrong. Atogwe won't become a FA because the Rams tendered him. However, if a team doesn't tender a player by a certain date, you will become a FA. Also as another poster said, he can become a FA if the Rams rescind their offer.

    With that said, I doubt he signs with New England not because they have Merriweather, but because he's coming off of injuries and will want a lot of money.
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA

    Atogwe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meriweather.

    But considering Meriweather is "decent", the cost would outweigh the need to upgrade. Just wouldnt be worth it.

    Injury or not OJ is a beast rolled in Demon batter. Id take him in a second over any DB currently on the roster.
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA

    Right, the deicison is the Rams, but it's either remove the tender and let him walk as a UFA or re-tender him at 110%, which is his franchise salary from last year + 10%. The reason why they were able to skirt that 110% in February is because they tendered him at the lowest level, no compensation, which doesn't require 110% unlike the other tender levels.
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA


    Hence, my logic in targeting Atogwe because I feel that Meriweather is just an average safety. Every time I think of Meriweather, I think that New England passed on Beason. Beason may or may not have been a good fit here, but Meriweather isn't a better player than him. And he [Meriweather] isn't a Pro Bowl player. Actually, he was merely a Pro Bowl replacement last season. Again, Meriweather is average, a decent player on New England but he isn't special like other former University of Miami players drafted in the past.
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA

    When did "better than almost every other player at his position" become the definition of 'average'?
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA

    Too harsh. Meriweather made the Pro Bowl. Average safeties, on average defenses, don't make the Pro Bowl.
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    Every game i watched last year the great chicago DB were getting lit up.
    i saw TE have a feild day against the safeties.

    I am confused how is this guy so great when avg TE were running free.
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    Maybe if Atogwe had played for the Bears, that wouldn't have happened...
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA

    Unfortunately, everything you say after this becomes irrelevant because of this line. You're no longer judging Meriweather on what kind of player HE is, but based on what you THINK another player at another position MIGHT have done here.
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    Oops rams lol

    seriously the guy had 8 interceptions in 2008 and 2009 had a down year ending in december with shoulder surgery and sports hernia. i fail to see the better than merriweather comment .

    So in that case we should up Moss right now considering what he did in 2007 season .

    We have mcgown an injury prone safety with a few good months and we need another 1.
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA


    So do you think Tyvon Branch is an average safety? Meriweather was named an injury replacement ahead of him and he'd a comparable season. What about Michael Griffin or Abram Elam? Interestingly, Meriweather was the choice over all three last season.
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    Works for me. Sign the beast!
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA

    Meriweather is a Pro Bowl safety. I am merely stating a fact. No giving my personal opinion.
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    what beast ??? he had a good season 2 yrs ago before he had a shoulder surgery and sports hernia surgery and went to IR.

    He will be starting mostly in PUP and no idea if he will ever go back to his 08 form.
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA

    How explain this
    2009 58 tackles/1 sack/2 INT
    2008 77 tackles/0 sack/5 INT


    became so better than
    09 53 tackles/0 sacks/5 INt
    08 61 tackles/1 sacks/4 Int

    is so much better. He blew his shoulder and no idea if he can hit and throw a sports hernia and his running is in question. so tell me how a guy might be starting in PUP and then coming back better than Merriweather.

    He signs now he makes less money and he does not become a UFA ,he gets 110% of last year salary. so he signs now he makes 2 million but signs after June 7million. So to be traded he will sign a 7 million contract and then we give a pick and sign him long term with atleast 7 million a yr so he can be in PUP
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    I'd only want him if he came for cheap, and he won't since he'll be a high level FA in a weak FA class. Sure the safeties can be upgraded, but the need isn't great enough for the money that Atogwe will be demanding.
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    While I wouldn't mind signing OJ, that would be throwing another pine into the logjam that we have in regards to safety depth. Also, Springs can play safety on occasion so if he does end up coming back in 2010, he can fill two positions for us while saving a roster spot for someone else. I also want to see how Chung progresses this season as his playing time should increase.
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    Re: OJ Atogwe won't sign his tender so he'll become an UFA

    I wont address the $$ because I already said Meriweather is the better value.

    What I will say is that I have seen most Rams games over the last few seasons (unfortunately) and unless you can honestly say the same thing, you simply dont know what you are talking about.

    Merriweather is good, but Otagwe is a STUD. Plain and simple. Anyone that has watched them both play on Sunday knows this or is lying to themselves.

    It's like comparing Bodden to Asomugha.

    Sorry if you don't agree. :shrug:
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