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Another site was DOS attacked and and after many days of attacking the
terrorist sent a message. Here it is:

yo, u might not thing of this as anyomous, but its
not real info, its a stolen earthlink, so its good,
now, to speak of the implemented attacks, yeah its
me, and the reason me and my 2 other contributers
do this is because in a previous post you call us
"script kiddies", atleast so i was told, so, i
teamed up with them and i knock the hell out of
your cicso router, and....im building up more bots,
no, not sub seven lame ass script trojans, i made
my own, and it seems quite effective does it not?
seems to me that ur backbone has trouble handling
the crap sent at it, go ahead and drop icmp pings,
u still need to say "NO" to them so it still takes
bandwith, thats where tracert comes in, to find the
t3 box ur on, nice, i see u stop it as-of today, :)
good for you, now ill find ways around it and we
can keep playing these games, i find it very fun,
shout out to hellfirez and drgreen, and yeah the
hellfirez from subseven, hes a friend and he isnt
a script kiddie u stupid ****...now, if u wish to
talk to me in person, hows irc??? talk to WkD, the
nick wicked was taken, good luck :) 


My question is why don't interent service porviders get together to put a stop this. It would seem if hackers know the vunerability of operating systems and know how to find computers with these vunerabilities then
ISP should also know.
If so then an ISP just looks for a problem machine when it first logs on to the
internet. If the machine has problems the user is directed to a page which
instructs him how to fix his machine so it is not a problem child. Until the fix
is made the computer is not allowed to access the internet.
Why wouldn't this work?

Here is site about the DOS attack problem

http://www.grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm

Ian, if you haven't read this you might read to see what this guy did
to stop his attack.
 
JR4 said:
Another site was DOS attacked and and after many days of attacking the
terrorist sent a message. Here it is:

yo, u might not thing of this as anyomous, but its
not real info, its a stolen earthlink, so its good,
now, to speak of the implemented attacks, yeah its
me, and the reason me and my 2 other contributers
do this is because in a previous post you call us
"script kiddies", atleast so i was told, so, i
teamed up with them and i knock the hell out of
your cicso router, and....im building up more bots,
no, not sub seven lame ass script trojans, i made
my own, and it seems quite effective does it not?
seems to me that ur backbone has trouble handling
the crap sent at it, go ahead and drop icmp pings,
u still need to say "NO" to them so it still takes
bandwith, thats where tracert comes in, to find the
t3 box ur on, nice, i see u stop it as-of today, :)
good for you, now ill find ways around it and we
can keep playing these games, i find it very fun,
shout out to hellfirez and drgreen, and yeah the
hellfirez from subseven, hes a friend and he isnt
a script kiddie u stupid ****...now, if u wish to
talk to me in person, hows irc??? talk to WkD, the
nick wicked was taken, good luck :) 


My question is why don't interent service porviders get together to put a stop this. It would seem if hackers know the vunerability of operating systems and know how to find computers with these vunerabilities then
ISP should also know.
If so then an ISP just looks for a problem machine when it first logs on to the
internet. If the machine has problems the user is directed to a page which
instructs him how to fix his machine so it is not a problem child. Until the fix
is made the computer is not allowed to access the internet.
Why wouldn't this work?

Here is site about the DOS attack problem

http://www.grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm

Ian, if you haven't read this you might read to see what this guy did
to stop his attack.

I'd like to see how brave some of these little f*ckers were in a face-to-face meeting with some of the posters on here.
 
I am Director of Engineering for a regional ISP in New England (Business customers, not consumers). It is simply not possible to monitor every machine on the Internet. With the freedom and flexibility that the Internet provides comes the inherent dangers of hackers. All you can do is concentrate on protecting your important data. Knocking out a single website is too easy but it is what it is as our leader might say.
 
Return of the Nizz said:
I am Director of Engineering for a regional ISP in New England (Business customers, not consumers). It is simply not possible to monitor every machine on the Internet. With the freedom and flexibility that the Internet provides comes the inherent dangers of hackers. All you can do is concentrate on protecting your important data. Knocking out a single website is too easy but it is what it is as our leader might say.


DOS attacks are well documented, and should be able to be defeated fairly easily if the pipe provider is proactive. I'm not surprised it happened, I'm just mildly surprised it took so long to rectify.
 
Return of the Nizz said:
I am Director of Engineering for a regional ISP in New England (Business customers, not consumers). It is simply not possible to monitor every machine on the Internet. With the freedom and flexibility that the Internet provides comes the inherent dangers of hackers. All you can do is concentrate on protecting your important data. Knocking out a single website is too easy but it is what it is as our leader might say.

I understand to monitor every computer for every communication would be
difficult and it would not be desireable.

We trust the browser makers to honest ...so as long as we've gone that
far why not trust them to make a scan to insure no vlunerability exist?
Let the Broswer makers provide a certificate of health which ISPs must see before they let the computer on the net. Older browser would have to download an update so they can get a clean bill of health.
This a one time check could done when the browser is first activated.
 
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