Another site was DOS attacked and and after many days of attacking the terrorist sent a message. Here it is: yo, u might not thing of this as anyomous, but its not real info, its a stolen earthlink, so its good, now, to speak of the implemented attacks, yeah its me, and the reason me and my 2 other contributers do this is because in a previous post you call us "script kiddies", atleast so i was told, so, i teamed up with them and i knock the hell out of your cicso router, and....im building up more bots, no, not sub seven lame ass script trojans, i made my own, and it seems quite effective does it not? seems to me that ur backbone has trouble handling the crap sent at it, go ahead and drop icmp pings, u still need to say "NO" to them so it still takes bandwith, thats where tracert comes in, to find the t3 box ur on, nice, i see u stop it as-of today, good for you, now ill find ways around it and we can keep playing these games, i find it very fun, shout out to hellfirez and drgreen, and yeah the hellfirez from subseven, hes a friend and he isnt a script kiddie u stupid ****...now, if u wish to talk to me in person, hows irc??? talk to WkD, the nick wicked was taken, good luck My question is why don't interent service porviders get together to put a stop this. It would seem if hackers know the vunerability of operating systems and know how to find computers with these vunerabilities then ISP should also know. If so then an ISP just looks for a problem machine when it first logs on to the internet. If the machine has problems the user is directed to a page which instructs him how to fix his machine so it is not a problem child. Until the fix is made the computer is not allowed to access the internet. Why wouldn't this work? Here is site about the DOS attack problem http://www.grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm Ian, if you haven't read this you might read to see what this guy did to stop his attack.