Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by DefenseRules, Aug 20, 2007.
That is interesting especially bringing up Bobby Carpenters name. For them I guess he would be playing more inside linebacker and special teams just my thoughts.
If Asante were in camp, I'd consider it. Actually I'd STILL consider it even before he comes back - but only if the Cowboys go insane and give us Carpenter for Tory James.
I doubt they'd get rid of Carpenter after only one season.
Burnett is a little small for our system. He weighs just 227 lbs. according to NFL.com
Can anyone think of a time where a team drafted a player in the first round and then traded him the next year? I sure can't.
I'd probably take Asante over those players anyway. We'd weaken our defensive backfield and only for an average linebacker. And I doubt any of them could come in this year and contribute much aside from special teams.
This is a silly proposition. Asante is WAY better than Goldilocks.
Wait a second. Bobby Carpenter for a nickelback????? Tory James can play nickel. Deal!!
This thread filled up fast. I never read your post.
In a freaking heartbeat.
ESPN.COM has him at 240 lbs. and he is young at 24 but this is his 3rd year.
Akin Ayodele is listed as 240 lbs. on NFL.com and 250 lbs. on DallasCowboys.com. Burnett, meanwhile, is listed at 240 lbs. on DallasCowboys.com. Looks like NFL.com needs to get their numbers straight.
Burnett was 6'3'' 239 lbs coming out of college. He blew out a knee his junior year in college and blew another his first year in the NFL. His problem isn't straight line speed, but lateral quickness. I would prefer Akin Ayodele, personally, but any of the Cowboys young LBers is better than the backups on the Pats. The fact that they are all familiar with Parcells' 3-4 is a huge benefit.
i'd take carpenter and a pick for #22 without batting an eyelash
the LB's weight isnt everything, look at Vilma, from everything Ive heard and read the patriots would of jumped all over the chance drafting him if he was available, hes not even that big...
theres a reason he might be available for trade and reason he sucked so much last year. he cant play in 3-4 yet. bradie james is not a very good player and they moved Ellis to OLB last year while Carpenter couldnt even compete against them.
Yeah. He might be more of a ball chaser style LB and suited more for the 4-3.
Carpenter player very well at OLB in the Seattle playoff game last year. But the Cowboys have D. Ware and just drafted Spencer. Under BB Carpenter will blossom. He's learned some humility from his Cowboy experience.
Last season he mentioned his lack of freedom in the 3-4. But, yes. I agree that BB will utilize his skills.
Carpenter for the signing rights to Asante... hellyeah... in a heartbeat!
We know the Patriots can't, but can other teams sign Asante to a long term contract now that we are past the July 16th deadline?
From someone in the DFW area, I wouldn't put too much weight into the Ft. Worth Star Telegram. They're not the National Enquirer or anything, but they tend to sensationalize their stories more times than not.
It's the Dallas Morning News that does an outstanding job in objectivity.
With that being said-Carpenter won't be going anywhere. Bradie James is our starter at ILB, but Carpenter will be used alot nonetheless. And even though it was with the second unit, Kevin Burnett finally showed his potential in the second half of that Broncos game. I think he'll be a keeper(for a bit while).
I think I deleted the Jets 1st preseason game already, I could have pulled the booth transcript discussing Vilma's struggles in the 3-4 and how it related to his size. The past three years that I've been trying to follow the draft I keep reading how BB loves some of these stud, undersized, sideline-to-sideline LBs, yet somehow he never seems to take a LB until much later in the draft, and most of them larger and slower with less pedigree then the Sims and Vilmas and Beasons.
Can we trade Ray Mickens for Ware?
Ray Mickens is on the shadow roster last time I heard....
Has anyone considered the possiblity of a three way trade - a Patriots WR for a Dallas LB for another team's CB?
Even if the rumors from Dallas are true, realistically, who has a cornerback to spare? The kind of money thrown at underwhelming talents like Jason David this offseason shows how thin that position is around the league.
Realistically I'd only expect them to move Burnett, if any of them. All of the ILBs we have each have a weakness that is another one of these players strengths, so I think while it may appear that there is a logjam for playing time by the numbers, by talent level I don't really think there is. Not to mention there was a ton of complaining by these LBs about the Fairbanks-Bullough 3-4 defense that Parcells and Belichick run now that the team is running the Phillips 3-4. All have lost significant amounts of weight in the offseason to the point where I don't know that they'd be a fit in the Pats defense anymore.
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