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  1. bruinator

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    If you guys could come up with one reason why Boston teams have been so successful this decade why would it be? Be it a reason or person or what ever?

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    It has to be great management. The Pats and Red Sox have basically be the same team in recent years, and the Celtics improved dramatically over the offseason. The Sox and Pats mostly retained their key parts and adding a few key parts. The Celts management took the initiative last offseason and it earned them a crown.
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    New rejuvinated ownership in every case. Now if only Jeremy Jacobs would sell.....
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    I thank myself.
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    Exactly it. Kraft came in and the Pats got hot, Henry came in and the Sox got hot, and I think the job Ainge did with the Celtics speaks for itself.
  6. bruinator

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    I will answer my own question. The one reason I think Boston sports has been successful is BB. He turned the Pats into a modeled successful franchise and the other Boston teams has followed his model, JMO.
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    1) Ownership
    2) Money (provided by ownership)
    3) Knowledgable decision makers (put in place by ownership)
    4) Crisp organizational identity and structure (not meddled with by ownership)
    5) Strong regional support (fostered by ownership)

    So it is really a variety of factors (*cough* ownership *cough*)...
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    #24 Jersey

    I say personell.


    Brady is the key reason for the Pats success.

    Pitching is the key to sox success instead always finding the sluggers they have found the pitchers.

    All stars to go with Pierce. big three.



    Where is that kind of talent on the bruins?????



    I do agree with the ownership answer to some extent though. A new owner can give renewed enthusiasm and deeper pockets but unless they get lucky and get the talent that wont matter.
  9. Wildo7

    Wildo7 Totally Full of It

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    75% strong management, 25% Luck.

    As good as Pioli, Belichick, Theo and even Ainge have been, and they've been great, certain things have just developed perfectly for them.

    David Ortiz coming out of nowhere, having three hungry All stars willing to swallow their egos and take less money for a championship, Tom "6th round" Brady are all fortunate events. That's not taking away anything from those in control, but all success in sports requires some degree of luck and I'd say that along with having some very shrewd people in charge, we've also been very lucky.
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    I will say, COINCIDENCE.

    Patriots are the only franchise with a PLAN!!!

    The others are simply outspending teams, taking advantage of small market teams, making dumb/good trades (in other words batting 50%) and, in the case of the Celtics, relying on old players who manage other teams to cut them a break.
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    It all starts with stable ownership that's committed to winning. They bring in strong personnel guys who can recruit and work within the league's salary cap situations. They also bring in strong coaches who can adapt and manage today's type of players (rich, spoiled, arrogant, ego). Ultimately it comes down to the players who want to play for the coach and are willing to put their egos aside to work toward a common goal.
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    Honestly, I think it all has to do with.....ME!
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    This doesn't seem like a good way to describe the Red Sox, who have a plethora of young players with star potential, many of whom were crucial in delivering the World Series Title last fall. It takes planning in modern baseball to use your farm system to effectively produce quality ball players. Spending big isn't the key to success in baseball, there are examples of this spread widely throughout the last 10 years.

    On the original topic:

    I'd say good fortune is likely the biggest reason that there has been so much success. We've all seen what injury bugs can do to even the best management's "plans" for a team's given season. Add to that the "pieces-falling-into-place" factor that is so obvious at the end of any year which I feel requires a great deal of luck, in addition to skill on the part of the GM's, and I think you can get the sense that I'm trying to portray.

    I do feel that the success is somewhat contageous throughout the professional organizations in the city. Teams have taken it upon themselves to put good product on the court/field because they know they'll be rewarded with Boston/New England fans putting their butts in seats and buying logo'd stuff.
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    It's hard to argue against great ownership when you look at the Krafts, what they've done with the Pats organization from top to bottom and when you look at the success of their other team which hardly ever gets a mention, perhaps rightfully, in the Revolution.

    Also, a diehard fan base who attend games even when their teams are mediocre or average greatly helps as well as the sports culture of the locale.
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    I think your answer is that there isn't on reason why, that it's every part of the teams that have made them successful. The Red Sox always had great offensive players but started winning World Series games when they finally put together a complete pitching staff. The Celtics developed young players and used them as chips to trade for Allen and Garnett. The Patriots have won with great coaching and quarterback play. Sustained success requires a fanbase that is willing to financially support an owner who can hire the right management who can select the right coaches and players.
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    bingo we have a winner. hands off ownership. hire good people and let them do there thing.
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    #12 Jersey

    The fans. Duh.
  18. Lakesidepatsfan

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    sidetracking here, but I was looking at the cities(and stadiums) which have hosted the superbowl and have noticed that Boston has never hosted one and isn't scheduled to in the next few years-why? Boston is a perfectly capable city as is the gillette a capable stadium, also why are most superbowls hosted in southern states?(e.g florida, california, texas, louisiana)
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    Yeah the fans brought the championships to Boston over the last 8 years.....its all about them....and the luck of the Irish!!!

    LUCKY 17!!!

    :rocker::rocker:
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    Weather. And Gillette would not be good for a SB, it couldn't handle the traffic.
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