Official 9/1 Decision Day? News Updates and Links Thread

[FourierSeries]

He said either today or Wednesday. Granted, that's not all too specific, but he gave out the impression that it would come sooner than later.

Now we're not even sure Brady will even have time to file an injunction. I would say that's cause for concern.

He said "likely Tuesday or Wednesday", but definitely by the end of the week." He didn't say it would definitely be today or Wednesday.

 

[PatsGuy]

He said either today or Wednesday. Granted, that's not all too specific, but he gave out the impression that it would come sooner than later.

Now we're not even sure Brady will even have time to file an injunction. I would say that's cause for concern.

I've heard orders being made public at 3AM. U might want to set your alarm

 

[VectorPrime]

If Brady loses he shouldn't bother appealing because he won't win, so it doesn't really matter how much time he would have to file an injunction.

 

[Bella*chick]

He said either today or Wednesday. Granted, that's not all too specific, but he gave out the impression that it would come sooner than later.

Now we're not even sure Brady will even have time to file an injunction. I would say that's cause for concern.

If Brady's lawyers are smart, and I know they are, they will have all the paperwork ready to file an injunction ready to go just in case.

 

[FourierSeries]

If Brady loses he shouldn't bother appealing because he won't win, so it doesn't really matter how much time he would have to file an injunction.

That's just not true at all.

 

[raduray]

Michael McCann ‏@McCannSportsLaw 4m4 minutes ago
Tom E. Curran ‏@tomecurran 1m1 minute ago
That Berman said a decision and "order" may be forthcoming could be telling. Why would there be "order" is just simple affirmation?

Well, the announcement that was just made is an order, so I suspect an affirmation of the suspension would also be an order.

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

On the other hand,

Gabe Feldman ‏@SportsLawGuy 1m1 minute ago
@tomecurran Could be order confirming or vacating arbitration award. Standard language.

Or this....

John Ventola‏@jfventola
@tomecurran Don't read anything into that. The judge has to issue an order of some kind to allow the appeal process to begin.

 

[BradyFTW!]

On the other hand,

Gabe Feldman ‏@SportsLawGuy 1m1 minute ago
@tomecurran Could be order confirming or vacating arbitration award. Standard language.

Yeah, Curran is wrong on suggesting that there wouldn't be an order if Berman was confirming. But if you're going to read into the delay, an order confirming Goodell's ruling would basically be "Article 46 says Goodell can do whatever he wants, period."

If Berman's taking longer than he initially expected to craft a careful ruling that will stand up to scrutiny on appeal and get the desired result, this at least somewhat leans toward a pro-Brady decision. Still not a slam dunk, obviously, but my guess is that maybe he's trying to incorporate information that he got yesterday (Feely interview?), and is making extra sure that it's carefully worded to withstand an NFL appeal arguing that Berman committed the same errors as the judge in Garvey who was overturned by the Supreme Court.

 

[memento]

If Brady loses he shouldn't bother appealing because he won't win, so it doesn't really matter how much time he would have to file an injunction.

Does Brady lose ground on an appeal bc the NFL was first to file? I wouldnt think so. All current signs point to a NFLPA victory.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

I think Berman is researching exactly how scathing is response is going to be and if he can order Goodell back to kindergarten.

 

[Oswlek]

If Berman's taking longer than he initially expected to craft a careful ruling that will stand up to scrutiny on appeal and get the desired result, this at least somewhat leans toward a pro-Brady decision. Still not a slam dunk, obviously, but my guess is that maybe he's trying to incorporate information that he got yesterday (Feely interview?), and is making extra sure that it's carefully worded to withstand an NFL appeal arguing that Berman committed the same errors as the judge in Garvey who was overturned by the Supreme Court.

This is how I see it as well, though I can't claim to be unbiased.

 

[VectorPrime]

Might as well close this thread up and start one for 9/2

 

[Galeb]

The season opener is in 9 days. He has to be aware that the longer it takes, the more pressure that is put on Brady and the Pats. This is crap.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Might as well close this thread up and start one for 9/2

I assume the names will trickle out this evening.

 

[RobertWeathers]

The season opener is in 9 days. He has to be aware that the longer it takes, the more pressure that is put on Brady and the Pats. This is crap.

Exactly. It really does hamstring them this time of year and potentially the next four games.

If this BS wasn't going on they'd have a roster spot to use as opposed keeping Triple Lindsay around...

Hell, they could try and pluck a FB or another OLman off the wire. Maybe be able to carry Douglas?

They are essentially being forced to work with one less roster spot this entire summer.

Totally pisses me off that this Fs with the teambuilding process.

 

[shmessy]

He said either today or Wednesday. Granted, that's not all too specific, but he gave out the impression that it would come sooner than later.

No.

He said 'HOPEFULLY tomorrow (Tues) or Wednesday, no later than Friday'.

It was pretty clear.

.

 

[mgcolby]

Not a lawyer or law buff of any kind. But as a professional, I like to have my work peer reviewed from time to time. Is it uncommon for Judges to confur with other robes before making big decisions?

Just a thought and a question.

 

[RobertWeathers]

No.

He said 'HOPEFULLY tomorrow (Tues) or Wednesday, no later than Friday'.

It was pretty clear.

.

We all know what the NFL wants.

If it's favorable to them, Friday @ 9am

If it's for TB12, Saturday morning at 12:20am

 

[karguy85]

Not a lawyer or law buff of any kind. But as a professional, I like to have my work peer reviewed from time to time. Is it uncommon for Judges to confur with other robes before making big decisions?

Just a thought and a question.

I'm a lawyer and I would think that would not be appropriate. Seems to go against legal ethics. The Judge's clerks, however, will write most of the actual decision.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Not a lawyer or law buff of any kind. But as a professional, I like to have my work peer reviewed from time to time. Is it uncommon for Judges to confur with other robes before making big decisions?

Just a thought and a question.

That is a very reasonable assumption.

Judges will seek council from other judges on their expected ruling. I would expect Judge Doty and Bermen have chatted.

They will also talk to judges who may be involved in the appeal and receive their council and critique the drafted opinion.

He could be baking in some buffer-time there...