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    Re: No Haynesworth against the G-Men

    Why does sportingnews have this in their NHL section?
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    Re: No Haynesworth against the G-Men

    Maybe he'll replace Sanders. That would be a surprise.

    Maybe Wide Receiver?

    No?
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    "In addition to Sanders, the Pats could still move Brandon Meriweather..."

    Oh come on Rapoport :rolleyes:
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    I like this move. Getting Albert in physical shape is paramount to his future success. Athletes who are not in shape get injured far more than the athletes that are in good or decent shape. AL's physical conditioning status must have been brutal Obviously. Why Rush the monster if he is not ready? I do not want him injured do you?

    I LOL'd @ the report of Al having an undisclosed injury when it was announced. The only undisclosed bit was the really out of shape part (no injury).:cool::bricks::cool:
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    While he may have been somewhat out of shape (speculation), or at least out of Patriot shape, he has regularly taken part in a knee injection regimen that he has done many yrs in a row during TC. That is likely the 'undisclosed' injury.
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    What exactly is "out of Patriot shape?" Is that some kind of special super power shape as compared with the rest of the league?

    While it's obvious he isn't ready to play because of his conditioning, maybe it is injury related, or his knee is a lot worse than perceived, he did have a chronic knee condition flare up in Washington.

    It's also reasonable to think he basically let himself go in Wash to get released, and the Pats are doing the smart thing and trying to bring him back slowly.

    The question is, does he have enough left to warrant the special attention, when the rest of the team is busting their ass to get ready for the season?
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    Or the Patriots are waiting until week one of the regular season to unleash the hellish tandem of two that is Wilfork and Haynesworth on opponents.
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    Apparently so, based on the past 10 years, last season's 14-2 record in a 'rebuilding' season with one of the NFL's greenest/youngest defenses, and the ONLY team in NFL history to go 16-0, and eventually even 18-0.

    Thinking that the standard is higher here than in Washington is not exactly rocket science.

    He has, as mentioned, regularly received Synvisc treatments just about every offseason or TC since 2006-2007. I am quite sure that Belichick knew about his situation. It is a long season, especially when you play almost every yr into January. It is a BB norm to allow proven vets to rest up during the TC sessions, so most of us don't see it as much of an issue at all. That is left to the ignorant.

    Yeah, that's what happened. It had nothing to do with his problems from day one with Shanahan, or his dislike for his role in a 3-4 defense. It was a big conspiracy where he "let himself go" just one yr removed from being the premeir free agent on the market. Instead of being dumb enough to give him a 100+ million dollar contract, we traded a 6th rd pick (in 2013 to boot), and a bucket of golfballs for him. The team then promptly signed him to a super low-risk/high-reward pact of approximately 1 million dollars. If he doesn't work out, it is not much different than picking up a league minimum vet who gets cut on a daily basis.

    As stated before, it is quite common for BB to give the proven vets time to heal and rest, due to the main goal of evaluating the players who are in need to make the 53 man roster. He has done it plenty of times before. If he doesn't work out, there is not much of anything lost at all, if he does work out Belichick will look like a genius...again.

    Enjoy your 43 yr streak of...nothing...or was that changed by your playoff wins in the divisional round the past 2 yrs?
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    He's just bitter that even IF Haynesworth doesn't work out, we still have Ellis, Carter, Wilfork, G.Warren, Anderson, Pryor, Wright et al to take his place---all while losing a lousy, worthless 6th rd pick in 2013.

    If his team would have made the move, we'd be hearing about their 3rd SB title in a row, instead his head coach has to put out a message to the rest of the NFL to "please play the Patriots tougher.." LOL :D
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    Looks like you guys have begun a streak of your own.
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    Well certainly the Lions were listening and thrashed us in the super b...

    err a pre season game :p
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    good point. I forgot about that lubrication in knee injection thing. That sounds a little painful.:eek:
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    1969......
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    you're red sox went nearly a century. did that make finally winning more or less enjoyable? and you must know the world changed last night when we completed a pass out of the wild cat. from small things mama!
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    First play of the season I bet Chad henne will get sandwiched between haynesworth and wilfork and will be forced to retire after having most of his body crushed.
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    "you're red sox went nearly a century."

    No need to reinforce the ignorance point.

    you're? It's 'Your". "you're" is like "you are". Capital letters start a sentence.

    red sox? "Red Sox"

    They went "nearly a century". All the teams over 100 years old like went nearly a century.
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    you need to find a sense of humor. All those rings and you cannot manage to look like you've been there before.:rocker:
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    We do tend to like literacy around here.

    However, my understanding is that team was named due to the fact that "PLANE" was too big a word.
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    He's a starter! :eek:
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    ...for the team fans to spell.
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    word, I'm thinking there's no way this guy makes the team. Can't practice, can't play, questionable conditioning and work ethic. Sayonara!
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    Dolphins won't be able to put him on IR since a crushed Henne is still better then their backup plan
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    Question..whats it like knowing you will never see the jets win a superbowl? Honestly, are you a little tempted to switch teams?
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    Wow. You're a witty one. :singing:
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    I was being serious...I mean, there is no reason you HAVE to like the jets, so why not jump on another team..atleast then you would have the chance to pull for your favorite team in the superbowl.
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    No, this is some preconceived elitist notion some of you Pats fans conjured up because you think it has some sort of entitlement to the Patriot nameplate. All teams strive for their players to be in shape, "patriot shape" is no different than any other team, and your team's record has no correlation. The success of the Patriots relative to the rest of the league has nothing to do with the condition of their players relative to the rest of the league.

    Or are you suggesting that the Patriots obviously aren't conditioned like say for example the Jets, who had their way with them when it counted in the playoffs, or the Packers since they won the Superbowl, are those players in "Jets" or "Packers" shape? C'mon...

    All teams do this, the Pats are no different, not sure why some Pats fans think Belichick and/or the Patriots invented the wheel on what goes on in the league. I agree, I'm sure Belichick knows his condition, and is probably taking the right approach with the hope Haynesworth responds, but as we all know, he was an abject failure in Washington, and his character will always come into question until he proves it on the field, the Pats and Belichick are no different, and Belichick is taking a chance here, he gave up on a high character and quality player in Ty Warren, who did all the "right" things, or using your terms, the "Patriot way," Belichick risks alienating the players on the team if they sense they are giving unfair treatment or considerations to a player with a questionable past, or very questionable work ethic.

    His problems with Shanahan from Day 1? What were they? Don't the Pats play a version of the 3-4, he didn't win much by going to the Pats. Maybe he did have a problem with Shanahan, that didn't give him the right to alienate his teammates, he had a locker room to answer to, he was the highest paid player on the team, and he gave up on them, forget Shanahan, what does that say about the rest of the team. He also didn't only have problems in Washington, their was a reason the Titans let him go. There is a reason why this player was available for such low compensation. I don't disagree about the low risk move and potential for reward, but a leopard of Haynesworth's stature, who isn't exactly young, as they say, "it's tough to teach an old dog new tricks," that may apply here.

    Not sure why you felt the need to add the barb and spin of 43 years, and considering the current success of the team under Ryan, who has made the "genius" look quite ordinary. I know it makes Pats fans feel better about themselves with the spin about the Jets playoff success, the last couple of years, but two trips to the AFC Championship game is pretty impressive. Maybe Haynesworth should strive for "Jets shape?"
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    The only ones impressed are Jets fans. Ryan is 3-2 against the genius and has not won any kind of a title. So, let's have some prospective. When he actually wins something then we can talk about his place as one of hte better coaches. Don't forget, Jets fans crowned Eric Mangini (the rat) as "Mangenius", then turned on him like a pack of dogs.

    Let's also stay on topic. There is a whole Jets Suck thread if you want to respectfully make the point that the Jets don't suck.

    Now as far a Albert is concerned. BB has a history of not playing certain players during pre-season while they get use to the system. Albert also had a major distraction going up until last week, which is now resolved. No further comment about that is needed on this thread as it's been beaten to death.

    If Albert is not going to contribute to this team in a positive way, there is one thing for certain, BB will cut him like a bad habit and move on.
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    86 years, but who's counting? And Yankees fans rubbed it in year after year after year, so I guess this is a little payback. We thought Bucky ******* Dent was the last straw, but still had to wait another quarter century.

    And, BTW, 1968--2011 is 43 years, so you guys are just at the half way point. In another 43, you'll really enjoy it! In fact, by then, the Lombardi might well have been renamed and your grandkids can watch the Jets hoist the Belichick.

    Otherwise, welcome to the Board. Reasonable comments and a sense of humor will make you a welcome oppo poster.
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    You did notice that you had registered at patsfans.com, right?

    If you want talk about baseball and the Red Sox, I suggest that you register at redsoxfans.com.

    This may some to a shock to you, but not all Patriots are Red Sox fans and some do not even care about baseball.
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