NEW ARTICLE: Another ESPN Patriots Spygate Report is a Reminder of How Ridiculous that Story Remains

[BradytoMosstoGronk]

Oh good, i was hoping to relive this. Welp...

 

[Bill Lee]

Ok, where's that 'Ignore Thread' button, @Ian?

Oh, right on the thread banner right above the first post.

Nite-nite everyone!

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Businessmen trying to influence politicians with offers of campaign money?

No freakin' way.

Next thing you'll be telling me is that Maine has a lot of trees.

 

[jmt57]

That's the worst part. Talk to any non-Patriots fan and ask them what it was really about and they'll mention all the falsehoods not realizing (or caring) that none of what they're saying is accurate.

Over the 14 years since the story broke, the first comment from 99.9% of the people I have ever spoken with on the subject is that 'the Patriots were caught taping practices'.

The effect is probably worthy of discussion in college courses about mass media.

 

[jmt57]

Have Wickersham and Van Atta ever written a positive or evenhanded piece about Belichick or the Patriots? They may have better credentials and are viewed as more legitimate journalists, but they're basically Rob Parker when it comes to covering New England.

Also, you know when the late senator Specter should have told this story? 10 or 11 years ago, when he was still alive and the sideline taping incident was only a few years old. It only would have helped his claim that the league covered things up. What did he have to lose by speaking out in 2010?

I read the article and the authors talk about how DJT would 'throw money around to politicians', but later state that the amount was less than $12,000.

Meanwhile Comcast was pouring millions into Specter's campaign, in an attempt to use anti-trust as a way that they could wrestle away the exclusivity of the Sunday Ticket contract from DirectTV, so Comcast could sell NFL games on a pay-per-view basis.

That means that the authors and Specter's son are trying to say $11,500 would influence Specter, but 100 times that amount would not?

smh

 

[VectorPrime]

The son denies he took the bribe so where’s the story aside from Kraft via Trump trying and failing to influence things. Unless you want to say the son is lying which fine maybe he is but there’s literally nothing to prove it either way.

 

[Betterthanmost]

Does Seth Wickersham write about any other team?

 

[VectorPrime]

Does Seth Wickersham write about any other team?

I have really bad news for you. He has a book about the Patriots coming out in October. Not joking.

 

[A Defiant Goose]

The son denies he took the bribe so where’s the story aside from Kraft via Trump trying and failing to influence things. Unless you want to say the son is lying which fine maybe he is but there’s literally nothing to prove it either way.

Don't overthink this. Trump bad Patriots bad click me money me

 

[Dr Pain]

You mean Senator Comcast? Remember Comcast was having a fight with the NFL and Senator Comcast was on their dole Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Comcast) and his endless anti-NFL jihad

Dave Zirin: Specter's ties to Comcast raise questions about Spygate probe

Something stinks in the world of Spygate. Call it a spectre over Specter. Call it a distasteful conflict of interest. Call it an unfair accusation against a

www.si.com

 

[tom444]

Another ESPN Patriots Spygate Report is a Reminder of How Ridiculous that Story Remains
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ESPN report of Trump trying to pay Arlen Specter to drop his investigation against the Patriots doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

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"What’s crazy is what was simply just essentially sign-stealing wasn’t exactly invented by Bill Belichick and to take it one step further, it was even quietly a widely-known practice among coaches throughout the NFL."

Yes for crying out loud.

 

[Give Kraft A Hand]

The media is obsessed with all things Patriots and Trump. Only makes sense to match them together...again.

 

[everlong]

 

[VectorPrime]

Bill officially broke the rules for one game after he ignored the league wide memo to stop filming on the sidelines because all teams were doing it. But Bill decided for some ungodly reason to still do it even though allegedly Mangini outright told him prior to the game “don’t do it Bill.”

But anyway before that memo filming from the sideline wasn’t illegal and filming in general never was and STILL ISNT illegal.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Bill officially broke the rules for one game after he ignored the league wide memo to stop filming on the sidelines because all teams were doing it. But Bill decided for some ungodly reason to still do it even though allegedly Mangini outright told him prior to the game “don’t do it Bill.”

But anyway before that memo filming from the sideline wasn’t illegal and filming in general never was and STILL ISNT illegal.

The NFL by-laws said it was ok, but the Ray Anderson memo in 2006 says it was not. Belichick, thinking that the memo could not overrule the by-laws because any rule changes require a majority owner vote, ignored the memo. That was his mistake. He should have sought clarification and didn't.

 

[Kontradiction]

Playing to the masses getting the double dip of hate pandering

Can't blame ESPN. Most people hate Trump and most people hate the Pats just put em together and rake in the clicks

They should have tried for the trifecta of clickbait articles and included a transgendered Pats fan in there somewhere committing a hate crime against an Asian Eagles fan.

 

[Nikolai]

Won three Super Bowls, been to six, and eight consecutive AFCCG appearances since then. NFL can go **** itself.

 

[Nikolai]

They should have tried for the trifecta of clickbait articles and included a transgendered Pats fan in there somewhere committing a hate crime against an Asian Eagles fan.

Change it to cis gender and you've got a winner.

 

[Kontradiction]

Change it to cis gender and you've got a winner.

Sounds good. We will have a cisgendered Pats fan committing a hate crime against a transgendered Asian Eagles fan.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

This was actually the investigation that should have happened and not the PSI fiasco, but it should have been a league-wide investigation. It should have included allegations that the Jets did the same thing the previous game; it was obvious that many in the league were doing the same thing, as many admitted it.

This would never happen.

It's always been about denigrating the Patriots specifically.

Think. We started 6-1 in 1974 and they freaked, blaming the players' strike and calling the 3-4 defense a fad which the league "caught up to" in the second half.

Every team in the NFL but one used the 3-4 primarily within five years. We missed the playoffs in '74 because 18 starters got injured.

I'd be fine with the Patriots getting a major fine/draft pick loss and being made an example, provided that the investigation is about sign stealing in the NFL.

No because the Patriots are always unfairly targeted. Fact not opinion, not exaggeration.

I think Specter had a pretty good point all along, which is that the NFL is an anti-trust organization and requires some oversight

His behavior was entirely in the context of discrediting the Patriots.

It’s one thing to have an opinion about the extent of competitive advantage gained and quite another to purposely bury actual facts - reported at the time - with the assumption that most readers won’t recall or weren’t aware of these things.

True. But the bottom line of the three fake scandals since '07 is the specific competitive disadvantage perpetrated against the New England Patriots by a corrupt league with complicity from opponents and endorsement by the media.