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  1. dryheat44

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    Jared Cook TE South Carolina
    James Casey TE Rice
    Everette Brown DE Florida State
    Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland (Have I mentioned how much I love this kid)

    Jeremy Maclin will announce today at 12:00 if he will or won't.

    (taken from several sources)
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    Awesome, the more the better. To hell with education, I want a stacked draft for the Pats to exploit with their plethora of picks.
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    Moreno, *Knowshon      (RB)    Georgia              [1]     5-11/208, 4.48
    Nicks, *Hakeem         (WR)    North Carolina      [1-2]    6-1/210, 4.57
    Stafford, *Matthew     (QB)    Georgia              [1]     6-3/236, 4.78
    Freeman, *Josh         (QB)    Kansas State        [2-3]    6-6/248, 4.86
    Moore, *D.J.           (CB)    Vanderbilt           [1]     5-10/184, 4.45
    Brown, *Everette       (DE)    Florida State        [1]     6-4/252, 4.65
    Greene, *Shonn         (RB)    Iowa                 [2]     5-11/235, 4.58
    Heyward-Bey, *Darrius  (WR)    Maryland            [1-2]    6-2/206, 4.37
    Smith, *Andre          (OT)    Alabama              [1]     6-4/340, 5.28
    Brown, *Donald         (RB)    Connecticut         [2-3]    5-10/210, 4.49
    Casey, *James          (TE)    Rice                [2-3]    6-4/235, 4.68
    Davis, *Vontae         (CB)    Illinois            [1-2]    6-0/204, 4.42
    Cook, *Jared           (TE)    South Carolina      [2-3]    6-5/240, 4.58
    Britton, *Eben         (OT)    Arizona             [1-2]    6-6/310, 5.09
    Britt, *Kenny          (WR)    Rutgers              [2]     6-4/215, 4.54
    Marks, *Sen'Derrick    (DT)    Auburn              [2-3]    6-1/295, 4.93
    Munnerlyn, *Captain    (CB)    South Carolina      [2-3]    5-09/185, 4.39
    McRath, *Gerald        (ILB)   Southern Miss        [5]     6-3/224, 4.62
    Rolle, *Myron          (SS)    Florida State       [6-7]    6-2/218, 4.52
    Baker, *Chris          (DT)    Hampton              [5]     6-2/308, 5.08
    Powers, *Jerraud       (CB)    Auburn              [5-6]    5-09/192, 4.49
    Ogletree, *Kevin       (WR)    Virginia             [6]     6-2/190, 4.50
    Davie, *Andrew         (TE)    Arkansas            [UDFA]   6-5/265
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    Nice. I wish had been able to watch more college play. I'm excited to read write-up's from you guys in the know on these characters.

    Question: Is there really a CB that should be taken in round one? Seems awfully risky. LB's and Linemen seem like the safest bets in round one, based on my reading on the subject.
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    There are Cornerbacks carrying round one grades from various draft prognosticators, you get a feel for which ones are blowing smoke and which are making a legitimate effort to analyze a kid's ability for the NFL. As it currently stands, the kid who looks the most like a fit for the Pats is being pushed towards the second round due to his height: Alphonso Smith, Wake Forest.
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    The only possible round 1 CB who I really like is DJ Moore from Vanderbilt. Seems to fit the Pats mode in terms of size, flexible hips. Potential lockdown CB and return man. Has also played WR this season with good success, so he offers a lot of value for flexibility as well, and clearly has good hands.

    I would consider him if he were BPA in the first, but hope that one of the top LB, S, or OT prospects falls to us.
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    Wow! Why is Rolle projected to go so low? Is it the Rhodes possibility?
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    Actually, DB and particularly CB seems to be a fairly "projectable" position. A lot of the top DBs were high draft picks -- e.g. the top 5 interception leaders in the league this year were all drafted high (4 1sts and 1 2nd rounder).
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    Not possibility. He accepted.
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    Really? Do you have a link? I cannot seem to find an announcement. He would be better off taking the sclarship; it is a chance of a lifetime.
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    Yes, but even before that NFL Draft Scout projected him as a mid-round player. Which is why I'm not overly concerned about trying to get one of the Day One kids, those mid-round kids aren't a bad looking bunch at all.
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    It's quite a position for a young man to be in, facing a choice between two chances of a lifetime! But I'd say take the Rhodes too. No matter where life takes you after that you have an incredible experience, incredible contacts and incredible credentials behind you.
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    Not to mention punting on the Thames!
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    Beanie Wells declares, per ESPN.
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    Is that a J-E-S-T logo on that helmet.... :eek:
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    01/08/09 - Wisconsin running back P.J. Hill announced on Thursday that he will forego his senior season and enter the NFL draft. The 5-11, 236-pounder ran for 1,161 yards and 13 touchdowns, while earning Big Ten honorable mention honors last season. Hill ran for 140 yards on 15 carries in a 42-13 loss to Florida State in the Champs Sports Bowl on December 27. “I just feel the time is right for me to take the next step in my career,” Hill said. “I would like to thank my teammates, coaches and the Badger fans for the great experience I had during my time at UW.” Hill ends his career in third place on Wisconsin’s all-time rushing list with 3,996 yards. He also tied for second on school’s all-time touchdowns list with 44, and ranks third in school history with 20 career 100-yard performances. “I wish P.J. the best in the future and want to thank him for all his hard work during his time as a Badger,” Wisconsin head coach Bret Bielema said. “He’s a great running back and I think his numbers speak for themselves.” - PA SportsTicker
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    LeSean McCoy has reportedly changed his mind and will enter the draft. I'm not in favor of drafting a running back high, but he's my favorite RB in the draft if true.

    Pitt's McCoy to declare for NFL Draft
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    McCoy hasn't hit NFL Draft Scout's list, but here's another one:

    01/09/09 - It looks like BYU will be losing its top receiver. KSL Newsradio's Greg Wrubell has learned that a press conference is being planned for tomorrow to announce that wide receiver Austin Collie plans forgo his senior year to enter the 2009 NFL Draft. There have been rumors for a while now that Collie would enter the draft, but he said he would not make his decision until after the Cougars' season was over. Collie concludes his BYU career as the Cougars' all-time leader in: Single-season receiving touchdowns: 15 (2008)...Career receiving touchdowns: 30...Single-season receiving yards: 1,538 (2008)...Career receiving yards: 3,255...Single-season receptions: 106 (2008)...Career receptions: 215...Single-season 100-yard receiving games: 11 (2008)...Career 100-yard receiving games: 17...Single-season all-purpose yards: 2,112 (2008). - KSL TV5
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    I'm going to agree with you 100%. He reminds me of C. Martin.. He has great vision and can do a lot of the little things.. Plus he has some good break away speed..
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    Baker, *Chris         (DT)  Hampton           [5]     6-2/308, 5.08
    Britt, *Kenny         (WR)  Rutgers          [2-3]    6-4/215, 4.54
    Britton, *Eben        (OT)  Arizona          [1-2]    6-6/310, 5.09
    Brown, *Donald        (RB)  Connecticut      [2-3]    5-10/210, 4.49
    Brown, *Everette      (DE)  Florida State     [1]     6-4/252, 4.65
    Casey, *James         (TE)  Rice             [2-3]    6-4/235, 4.68
    Coffee, *Glen         (RB)  Alabama           [5]     6-1/204, 4.53
    Collie, *Austin       (WR)  BYU               [3]     6-2/206, 4.56
    Cook, *Emanuel        (SS)  South Carolina    [4]     5-10/205, 4.52
    Cook, *Jared          (TE)  South Carolina   [2-3]    6-5/240, 4.58
    Crabtree, *Michael    (WR)  Texas Tech        [1]     6-3/214, 4.54
    Davie, *Andrew        (TE)  Arkansas         [UDFA]   6-5/265
    Davis, *Vontae        (CB)  Illinois         [1-2]    6-0/204, 4.42
    Freeman, *Josh        (QB)  Kansas State     [2-3]    6-6/248, 4.86
    Greene, *Shonn        (RB)  Iowa              [2]     5-11/235, 4.58
    Heyward-Bey, *Darrius (WR)  Maryland          [2]     6-2/206, 4.37
    Hill, *P.J.           (RB)  Wisconsin        [6-7]    5-11/236, 4.59
    Isdaner, *Greg        (OG)  West Virginia    [6-7]    6-4/322, 5.19
    Maclin, *Jeremy       (WR)  Missouri          [1]     6-1/200, 4.38
    Marks, *Sen'Derrick   (DT)  Auburn           [2-3]    6-1/295, 4.93
    McRath, *Gerald       (ILB) Southern Miss     [5]     6-3/224, 4.62
    Moore, *D.J.          (CB)  Vanderbilt        [1]     5-10/184, 4.45
    Moreno, *Knowshon     (RB)  Georgia           [1]     5-11/208, 4.48
    Munnerlyn, *Captain   (CB)  South Carolina   [2-3]    5-09/185, 4.39
    Nicks, *Hakeem        (WR)  North Carolina   [1-2]    6-1/210, 4.57
    Ogletree, *Kevin      (WR)  Virginia         [6-7]    6-2/190, 4.50
    Powers, *Jerraud      (CB)  Auburn           [5-6]    5-09/192, 4.49
    Rolle, *Myron         (SS)  Florida State    [6-7]    6-2/218, 4.52
    Smith, *Andre         (OT)  Alabama           [1]     6-4/340, 5.28
    Stafford, *Matthew    (QB)  Georgia           [1]     6-3/236, 4.78
    Wells, *Chris         (RB)  Ohio State        [1]     6-1/237, 4.53
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    What's interesting about all these Juniors coming out who are getting 1st round ratings is that there was already 20 something seniors who had 1st round ratings..
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    Exactly. Imagine getting a high first and second for Cassel, and turning that #1 into a low #1 and a #2...

    There's "first-round" talent going right into the third round this time around.

    Also, we'll of course be scoring the next uber-QB sometime in the 200's, hehe
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    A nice turnaround from your concerns in the Fall, eh? :)
    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/13/113659-2009-preview-wheres-talent.html

    From a draftnik's perspective, a draft this deep is fascinatingly unpredictable. Usually we respond to a lot of mock drafts with "too unrealistic, XX will never be around at #24." This year some of those "unrealistic" possibilities will end up realistic.
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    I'm excited about lots of quality players falling as we have a bunch of early-ish picks. Throw in one or two extra for Cassel and this draft could be huge for the franchise. Of course we will most likely trade one or so around for more next year, but never the less we are sitting in a good situation!
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    Patchick - Is it really a turnaround? Look at the 2nd sentence of my post in that thread...

    And that is what its taking to make this a deep draft..
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    Seems like there are alot of players declaring that are ranked for the 4th round and on.

    Why would you do that??

    Not a good sign in my mind.
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    Money. Remember that even a rookie who makes the team will bring in over 230K in a year.

    Now, one player who is ranked low is Myron Rolle. But he's ranked low because he's accepted a Rhodes Scholarship and is going to Oxford for a year.

    Others are falling lower because of the number of underclassmen that are coming out. It has a waterfall affect. The more that come out, the lower down they are going to be..
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    Just the kind of smart, level-headed athlete that Belichick aspires to acquire. Pick him in the 2nd or 3rd, sign and let him study abroad, as a red-shirt equivalent.

    Help him into Bsoton are medical school, like Harvard or Tufts Medical School, with Kraft's connections. Let him QB their defensive backfield for a decade, as he becomes another Dr. Peter Brock.
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