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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Nope he was clean. This is as freak as it can be...Was there anything about his knee coming out of the draft? Like an RG3 situation?
Nope he was clean. This is as freak as it can be...
You have to think Vikings not only thinking short term, but also long term. Tradeing for a QB has to be considered...
New stadium, APs age, All the young players who needs new contracts withing 1-2 seasons etc.
And then you add 9-12 months atleast and by then he may only be at 75-85% as a mobil QB.. No this is not only hurting the year, but next season aswell.
When you factor all this, trying to trade for Rivers ( Turner connection ? ) AJ McCarron ( Zimmer ? ) or who knows mayby Jimmy G must be considered, I think?
Look, I know internet users love playing the "oh, the irony!" card -- I mean, that's like the oldest shtick in the history of message boards -- but you're utterly grasping at straws; you are just completely -- completely -- off-base here.
I like Bridgewater and want him to succeed (I live in the Twin Cities, so I hear a lot about the Vikings), but he's statistically a bottom-tier quarterback right now. This isn't the Packers losing Rodgers or us losing Tom Brady, this is a run-heavy, defense-oriented team losing a guy who ranked 22nd in passer rating last year. Bridgewater has a career 87.0 rating (during an era when passing efficiency is at an all-time high), and Shaun Hill has a career rating 85.2; given the aforementioned nature of this team (run-first), I totally think Shaun Hill could "game manage" them to a decent season. (And to be completely clear, yes, I think Bridgewater is better than Hill, but at this point in his career I don't think he's miles ahead.)
That is an objective and fair observation, which is a far cry from the personal vendetta people have against Mort because he said something negative about our beloved team/players. When reporters say negative things about the Broncos people here gobble it up, when they say negative things about our team we resort to character assassination and calling them worthless hacks.
A quarterback got injured, and you're telling me that talking about how said injury affects his football team's season is "[using] this as a platform to bash his talent?" You should be in politics, because false equivalency and rhetoric like that is only heard from presidential candidates. Saying a quarterback is not very good is "talking ****"? Are you high?His talent or potential has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation. This thread was being used as a platform to wish the kid well and learn about the developments of his injury; for all we know his career could be over. Injuries like that are not easy to come back from despite all of the advances in modern science. You used this as a platform to bash his talent when he's vulnerable while simultaneously preaching sanctimoniously to others that they should lay off Mortensen because of his personal challenges considering it's "only football."
A kid who has proven to be a model citizen potentially has his career ended by a gruesome injury (not to mention the potential damage to his long term health if there was arterial damage) and you started talking **** about him. Yes, I'm pulling the irony card because it's perfectly fitting.
It's likely that there was some undetected structural damage that contributed to the injury.I'm wondering if the ACL wasn't already partially torn.
PFT just posted an article from a trainer that basically says that the knee cap dislocation was caused by the ACL tear. He is speculating that once his ACL tore, the joint became unstable and say if he was planting his throwing leg, the joint now with a torn ACL couldn't handle his body weight and buckled causing the knee cap dislocation. He didn't think it was any prior injury or weakness, just basically a "freak injury" .
Also said that the dislocation can often turn a orthopedic case into an emergency case if the nerves or blood vessels get damaged (which apparently didn't happen in Bridgewater's case) but does explain why they quickly loaded him into an ambulance and got him to a hospital.
Yikes. OT: I witnessed a torn patella tendon playing hoop. He came down with a rebound and fell like a ton of bricks. His kneecap rolled up on just slightly below where is quad muscle starts. Gross. Needed to call 911.
Must have been quite impressive to see a torn patella tendon playing hoop at all, let alone grabbing a rebound.
PFT just posted an article from a trainer that basically says that the knee cap dislocation was caused by the ACL tear. He is speculating that once his ACL tore, the joint became unstable and say if he was planting his throwing leg, the joint now with a torn ACL couldn't handle his body weight and buckled causing the knee cap dislocation. He didn't think it was any prior injury or weakness, just basically a "freak injury" .
At first I had no idea what happened. He was on the floor but not screaming but wincing. Then he held is knee and saw this bump. Took a few seconds to register what happened.
Sounds brutal, as does the Bridgewater injury. I've seen some horrifying sports injuries on TV (Kevin Ware and Clint Malarchuk being the most gruesome), but thankfully never in person, let alone in a game I was participating in myself.
This is a sad lesson in the tenuousness of of playing in the NFL. It also points out another reason why you can't baby these guys all the time since every play they make could be their last of the season. What was it Edelman said, "if it goes, it goes". Or to paraphrase another great philosopher, "this is the nature of the business we have chosen".
It also shows how important is to have a quality backup QB that knows the system. The Vikings are ****ed, no matter what answer they have for this, their season is toast.
Quality backup doesn't mean expensive or a big name, there are not even 32 quality starters so there is no such thing as a top backup , but it just means something that resembles a plan, the Vikings apparently didn't have a plan.
BB drafting Biscuit this year was not necessarily related to Brady being out 4 games, I'm more inclined to think it was his plan all along.