Marshall Faulk "Patriots can only tie for best ever - Never break any Wins record"

[stcjones]

Re: Marshall Faulk "Patriots can only tie for best ever - Never break any Wins record

Marshall Faulk who we know is a very big Patriots hater and who holds a grudge since NE went out in February 2002 and toasted the Rams, comes up with another reason why the Patriots season cannot be justifed as best ever,Only as a tie for best ever season with the '72 Dolphins

He says no matter what happens with 16-0 its not a big deal because Miami did it too and even if they go 19-0 the best they can do is tie the Dolphins so the Patriots will never be better than the Dolphins only as a tie.

What this idiot refuses to understand (and was told by Sanders on the same show) is that Miami only played 14 regular season games and 17 in total but then Marshall comes back with his excuse that its still 1.000 percent anyway you look at it.

What no one forgets to add is the Patriots had to do this by convincing top free agents to play for a bit less to win a championship and had to do it during the Cap Era which was not in effect in '72

No matter what anyone ever says to Marshall he refuses to believe or admit that this years team has the potential to be the best to ever set thier cleats on a football field and god forbid someone tell him the 2007 Patriots are better than the 2001 Rams

Well gawd knows Marshall F**K is no genius.,......do the math Marshall you screaming a-hole....19 straight wins (even 17 straight wins) BEATS what Miami did.......duhhhhhhhh.........

This guy is one of the dumbest jacka##es I have ever seen or heard.......

 

[NEPatriot]

Re: Marshall Faulk "Patriots can only tie for best ever - Never break any Wins record

19 is better than 16 because Tom and Randy are going to set a new record in TDs.Pats is going to have 4 SB rings.

Pats is BETTER than Dolphin. Period.

As you can see 19 is backed with many records and awards. That is one hell of accomplishment.
did Dolphin accomplish something like this.? Not in their lifetime.

when i heard somebody mention about who will be the greatest football team. I know Pats is the only candidate.

 

[apricissimus]

Re: Marshall Faulk "Patriots can only tie for best ever - Never break any Wins record

Math lesson for M. Faulk : 19 > 16.

True, but you also have to note that the 72 Dolphins never had the chance to play 19 games in a season. Who's to say what they would have done?

 

[sanvara]

Re: Marshall Faulk "Patriots can only tie for best ever - Never break any Wins record

He says no matter what happens with 16-0 its not a big deal because Miami did it too and even if they go 19-0 the best they can do is tie the Dolphins so the Patriots will never be better than the Dolphins only as a tie.

The Dolphins accomplishment is not less worthy for not being allowed to play more games. Both teams will be on equal footing with the accomplishment of "undefeated season." Also, undefeated season doesn't mean "best team ever." The 1985 Bears were probably the best team ever even though they lost one game. They finished 18-1, but more impressively, outscored their playoff opponents 91-10. Yes, that's right, in their three playoff games, including the Superbowl, they allowed 3.3 points a game. If the Pats can destroy their playoff opponents as overwhelmingly as the Bears did, then the title will belong to them.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Re: Marshall Faulk "Patriots can only tie for best ever - Never break any Wins record

Eh, those 72 Dolphins were something, back in the day. Back then, a 14-0 game that became 14-7 because of an idiot kicker trying to throw a pass, was a super bowl blowout.

So much has changed. The rules have changed so much it's not the same game. Not to mention the speed and size of the players.

You can't compare across eras, but you can definitely say the achievement is greater, with a longer season, parity (so you can't just buy the best team, even if you DID have a great free agency year,) and way different pressures on players (not to mention overcoming the bullcrap that was spygate, and doing so with flying colors.)

IF the Pats achieve what it looks like they will, they have a great claim to best ever team, especially with those 85 Bears being such a weird one-and-done phenomenon. Not that you can't look at one single year, but unlike both those other teams, the Pats are doing this in the context of a dynasty.

PFnV

 

[rhodeislandpatsfan]

Re: Marshall Faulk "Patriots can only tie for best ever - Never break any Wins record

Sorry, your math flies in the face of Faulkian logic.

19/19 = 17/17

Duh.

17/17 against the worst winning percentage since the merger
Vs.
19/19 against 7 out of 11 playoff teams. average margin of victory 25 pts

19/19> 17/17

 

[Handel]

Re: Marshall Faulk "Patriots can only tie for best ever - Never break any Wins record

Marshall Faulk who we know is a very big Patriots hater and who holds a grudge since NE went out in February 2002 and toasted the Rams, comes up with another reason why the Patriots season cannot be justifed as best ever,Only as a tie for best ever season with the '72 Dolphins

I'm sorry but he is kind of right. If Pats win it all, it will not really erase what Phins did in 1972. As he said, Phins in 1972 had only 14 regular seasons to play. It's not their fault it was not 16.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Re: Marshall Faulk "Patriots can only tie for best ever - Never break any Wins record

I'm sorry but he is kind of right. If Pats win it all, it will not really erase what Phins did in 1972. As he said, Phins in 1972 had only 14 regular seasons to play. It's not their fault it was not 16.

Yeah and it's not the Packers' fault they won an NFL title or two before the Super Bowl. They're still not Super Bowl victories. By the same token, the 72 Dolphins never went 19-0 in a single season.

It's a new record, and not because "19/19 > 17/17," a mathmatical falsehood, but because you don't express wins in fractions.

The Pats will = the 72 phins in "undefeatedness."

The Pats will have more victories than the 72 Phins.

The Pats will have done what no NFL team ever did, and what no NFL team is likely to do for another 30 years, go undefeated in a 16 game season.

PFnV

 

[PatsFan24]

Re: Marshall Faulk "Patriots can only tie for best ever - Never break any Wins record

Even Shula said 19-0 is better than 17-0. Faulk is wrong. We will never know if they would have gone 19-0 or not, but to say that 17-0 is just is good is not accurate. Here is another thing to think about...say the pats go 18-0 then lose in the super bowl? is that less than what miami did because they didnt win the super bowl? or is it better because they had a longer unbeaten season? If the season for the dolphins was 19 games how do you know they go 19-0? how do you know they win the super bowl?