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    Re: Floyd Reese one of two finalists for Seahawks GM job

    It looks like Reese will get the job! Bill O'Brien is hopefully out of here as well. Dan Pees wont be renewing his contract. Wtf is up with teams taking our personnel?
     
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    Re: Floyd Reese one of two finalists for Seahawks GM job

    Carroll has total control in SEA-I.E. final say on all personnel decisions. The GM for the NEP manages the FO but come the FA and draft day periods, BB has final say on player acq.

    Not sure if Caserio is higher on the pecking order than Reese but if he slides into the OC role (rumor started by Breer), it would then be interesting to see if BB moves Reese to GM or lets him walk.
     
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    Re: Floyd Reese one of two finalists for Seahawks GM job

    That's not entirely true. If you read PFT, you'd know that it's a very fluid situation as to what type of control Carroll, CEO Todd Leiweke, and the new GM Will have in Seattle.
     
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    Carroll will have final say on who is on the 53 man roster. He may not have "total" control, but dictating who is on the roster is pretty darn close IMO.
     
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    Re: Floyd Reese one of two finalists for Seahawks GM job

    My vote to replace Reese if he gets the job is George Kokinis. The guy got a bad deal in Cleveland. He was the director of pro personnel with Baltimore from 2000-2008 and he did play a part in their drafts that got them a lot of great players like Suggs, Ngata, and Reed. He also worked for Belichick in Cleveland.
     
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    Re: Floyd Reese one of two finalists for Seahawks GM job

    I think the Patriots personnel are viewed a little higher to begin with based on reputation of the team. So I think that's why they seem to get more jobs than other teams. Not saying they aren't qualified because (most) are.
     
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    Re: Floyd Reese one of two finalists for Seahawks GM job

    The Seahawks aren't hiring him based anything he did with the Patriots. First of all, he was here for one year. Second of all, from all reports he just handled contracts. Third of all, he didn't make decisions, Belichick did, and those FA/trade decisions were generally poor this past offseason.

    But Reese has been in football for 40 years. The Seahawks didn't say "Oh, who's this Floyd Reese guy on the Patriots. He must have helped build their great teams. Let's hire him."
     
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    Re: Floyd Reese one of two finalists for Seahawks GM job

    Source: Reports of Reese to Seattle are premature, at best | ProFootballTalk.com

    Report: Allen will decide Seahawks G.M. job | ProFootballTalk.com
     
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    Looks like we need a new GM. Hopefully someone with the balls to trade up and sign some FA's in their prime. ;)
     
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    Reese is not a GM. He didn't make personnel decisions in his one year with this team.
     
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    Excuse me, 'senior football advisor*'. lol
     
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    He's not even close to being this team's GM. He helps negotiate contracts. He doesn't make football decisions.
     
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    This is true but outside of Caserio and obviously BB whos next in line?
     
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    Reese in one sense, Licht in another sense, Jon Robinson in a third sense. It's not completely linear... (Reese is somewhere off to the sides of the chart)

    Belichick is the only one who makes football decisions. Everyone else advises him, essentially.
     
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    I agree with that, since Pioli has left, Its been the BB show.
     
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    It was before.
     
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    Not as much as it is now
     
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    It was the BB show when Pioli was here, too. Bill chose to have a relationship with Scott predicated on concensus. That was Bill's decision to make. At the end of the day if he disagreed with Scott he was empowered to do whatever he wanted. Thing is for all we know Scott was more responsible for the misses in drafting and FA because he was in charge of the entire personnel function including college and pro scouting staffs. His job was to find Bill talent that would fit his scheme based on the work his scouts and staff did. Scott didn't always travel with the team because he was busy scouting personally as well. He did most of the preliminary work on trades, Bill was in as the hammer to try to get more or give less. He also was the guy who figured out how to allocate the budget based on units and talent. So he had a lot to do with not retaining talent as well as acquiring it.

    Since he didn't leave until this time last January we won't know how things go without him for a while now. He was involved in the scouting that led to draft selection and FA signings last season because much of that work is done by the personnel department throughout the prior season.
     
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    I dont disagree but somebody like Pioli who could give valuable insight certainly helped in decision making weather it be in the draft room or in personal decisions. This year I think BB has had to take more responsibility for the same decisions. What Im trying to say is that BB has probably done more this year than in any other year since hes been here.
     
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