Final Super Bowl drive triggers proposed rule change

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  1. thenepatsrule

    thenepatsrule In the Starting Line-Up

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    I am surprised there was no issue made of this when it happened during the SB ...........
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2012
  2. zoostation

    zoostation In the Starting Line-Up

    My neighbors are all very familiar with that play as I could be heard yelling at the tv for blocks :mad:
  3. dex13

    dex13 On the Game Day Roster

    100% agree. I was screaming at the TV after this happened. If the Pats had been on the other end, every sports writer would be in uproar about how BB had intentionally "gamed" the system to win.
  4. jmt57

    jmt57 Moderator Staff Member Supporter

    In regards to the proposal, I would prefer that it remain a free play rather than a dead ball foul. Then, if the team that accepts the penalty rather than the outcome of the play, they can also have the option of resetting the clock in addition to the five yards.

    I would suggest that be the case for all penalties, however I realize that the networks are not going to like that idea as games would go beyond their allotted time slot. A compromise would be to put that into effect only in the final two minutes of the first half, and final five minutes of the second half.
  5. brady199

    brady199 Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

    I would assume that if each game went an extra 10-15 Mins, the networks wouldn't mind, since they are going to have huge ratings during that time. It's not like people are going to complain the game is too long like baseball.
  6. jmt57

    jmt57 Moderator Staff Member Supporter

    From what I understand much of it is pressure from the local networks, as well as the corporate side. When the games run long everything afterwards gets pushed back. That makes the local news at 11 start later, and the ads from those shows are the biggest money-maker for local news stations. When they don't start on time people switch to watch the news on another channel.

    The corporate headquarters prefer shows to start at the top of the hour for the same reason. 8:00 comes along, a show isn't on and people flip the channel.

    The ratings boost is nice but they don't run any additional ads when the game goes longer; they only show a specific number of ads regardless of how short or how long the game is. So even though the ratings are high, they don't get additional ad revenue.
  7. fourhour

    fourhour Practice Squad Player

    Funny how TV plays a big role in the outcome of major sports events. One hand feeds the other, TV needs the sporting events to survive and vice versa!
  8. Gwedd

    Gwedd Supporter Supporter

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    I can understand the logic behind the compromise, but I'd rather see it in effect for every penalty/foul.

    But yeah, it's only now that I can really start to talk about this game. Well, that and I've had some serious health issues that have kept me down for awhile. But I digress.

    Those seconds SHOULD have been put back on the clock, but hey. It's history now.
  9. sly24

    sly24 Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

    I wrote a post about it at the time and I'm glad they are looking into it. Seriously, why not put 20 guys on the field while you're at it.. the 5 yards are meaningless.
  10. Leemo

    Leemo Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    #87 Jersey

    It was a bit talking topic on the nfluk official forum. I'm glad something is being done but actually quite surprised...

    PATSYLICIOUS Pro Bowl Player

    #12 Jersey

    Yeah BB probably would have gotten blasted for this.

    That said, if Coughlin did this on purpose hats off to him. That's a brilliant strategy when there was no rule for it.
  12. betterthanthealternative

    betterthanthealternative In the Starting Line-Up

    Heck, put 50 out there. It'd be a great move. Chess vs. checkers.
  13. jbb9s

    jbb9s In the Starting Line-Up

    well if the opponent has "stumbled" on a loophole, it is the offensive team's responsibility to start playing chess too. Snap and spike. 5 yds 1 sec.
  14. PatsFanSince74

    PatsFanSince74 Supporter Supporter

    The irony, of course, is that the play from that game would still be legal since all you have to do is look like you're trying to get one of the players off the field and not just trying to leave 12 guys standing around waiting for the play. :rolleyes:

    How much ya wanna bet that every team, including the Pats, will practice the "fake 12 guys on the field in the last minute of the game play" in Training Camp this year? ;)
  15. crew1954

    crew1954 Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    #12 Jersey

    There is a rule for it, its just that the penalty ( 5 yards, but no time put back on the clock) is worth the rule violation late in the game.

    If the NFL is going to start putting time back on for this rule infraction, it needs to also do it for offsides, illegal contact and other violations.

    Theoretically, a personal foul, or other 15 yard penalty, might be worth intentionally committing under the right time/distance circumstances.

    Even a 60 yard pass interference penalty is a viable option under the current rule.
    Last edited: Mar 24, 2012
  16. Gwedd

    Gwedd Supporter Supporter

    #11 Jersey

    Yup. Situational football.
  17. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Banned

    That's how the NFL became the behemoth it is. In the 60's a genius by the name of Pete Rozelle tailored the league around making it perfect for this new technology that everyone suddenly owned called a television. And the rest is history.
  18. jbb9s

    jbb9s In the Starting Line-Up

    pats1974 - game 19 of the season. 23 if you include pre-season. I seem to remember the Pats had a fumble recovery negated which cost them 7 pts on the old "not so fake 12 guys on the field" play. Let's get the basic plays down first.
  19. Joey007

    Joey007 In the Starting Line-Up

    #91 Jersey

    You want to hear something funny? I can hardly remember what happened in the SB, I barely even think of it that much. I guess I'm starting to appreciate these years we have with Brady as our man. Enjoy it while Brady's still here. There'll be a day when we'll look back at this as- "Remember when we were SB threat's every year?? I'm just gonna kick back, and watch one of the best friggn QB's the world has ever seen!! :rocker:
  20. IllegalContact

    IllegalContact Pro Bowl Player

    The penalty should be dead ball.

    It would have no affect on tv because no one would do it
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