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    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/

    Considering Yates is the only other active G/C (besides Mankins and Koppen), I wouldn't be surprised if the Pats make (or have already made) a roster move to promote Stevenson or re-sign Mruczkowski.
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    Who is going to start at right guard? Billy Yates?

    Can one of our tackles play guard?

    If I recall correctly draft reviews said O'Callaghan can play guard so maybe they use him there, at least in an emergency situation. They have Britt who can play RT and Kaczur, who it sounds like made the trip, so maybe he'll be active.
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    The OL that will be active are:

    Light
    Mankins
    Koppen
    O'Callaghan
    Kaczur
    Britt
    Yates

    LT: Light
    LG: Mankins
    C: Koppen
    RG: Yates
    RT: O'Callaghan

    OT: Kaczur
    OT: Britt

    ...

    I wouldn't be surprised if Kaczur starts at RG, either.
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    Yates gets the start. Kaczur and Britt have taken training reps at G, I'd be inclined to try O'Callaghan inside and use Britt on the edge, or Kac if he's healthy enough.
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    Bad time to have to reshuffle the o-line against the vikes defence.
    Not having Graham hurts also.
    Definetly expect more roll outs from brady,as well as the expected screens and draws.
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    Yep, this will be alot tougher in the trenches than it should be. Hope Tommy gets decent time, it will help to open up the run later in the game.
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    So much for the Herald reporting Seymour wouldn't play.
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    neal is the biggest loss imo...he is a big part of our running game
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    Think so? I would have said Graham.
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    I wasn't at all impressed with Yates' work against Buffalo.

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    Wilson's out again too, huh?

    The Patriots safety rotation has banged up for the past year. Hawkins to save the day again.
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    When did he play?
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    graham too but i think he is usually the extra blocker ,i would rather have neal to keep the o line consistency especially for the run game and also for all the noise in the dome.lets face it we have run for 100 yards only once in the last 4 games so as awesome at it was in the beginnning we need to get it back on track..
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    Yeah, both Neal and Hochstein being out could present a major problem. I know Kazcur has some experience at G though he's been used exclusively at T thus far. I agree with those that say Yates will be the RG. I'm nervous about this game. We get our butts kicked in the trenches and it could be a long night.
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    Well this is just great. We just came off a byeweek and we are already banged up. :(
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    I've chalked that up to Graham being out, but you could certainly be right.

    Or it could be a combo, which is what I'm thinking now.
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    And I was sure Sey was going to have an operation when he didn't flat out deny it.:rolleyes:
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    Many here questioned why Mruc is not on the team with Hochstein injured. Dante must be OK with Yates as center if Koppen is hurt. Yates is the only one who has played OG for the pats. It is not the time to experiment, although as you say Kaczur may be good enough to step in if he's healthy.

    There are no reasons for roster moves if Kaczur can play.

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    There may be a move..as was stated...interuior backup OL needed,,NOT the time to start shifting players around at all..so I would think that unless Kaczur can play inside..and has recovered fully from his shoulder injury..a move could be made..Mruc is quite good inside.. Hoch's injury we'll find out soon about that I am sure... is a big loss though..
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    Does anyone know if Neal's injured shoulder is the same one he had problems with early in his Patriots career? If this is a serious injury it is a big loss IMO as he's arguably our best run blocker. Let's hope for the best.
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    It is, only because he's injured both shoulders. ;)
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    I was gonna say that. If Kaczur is healthy, he'd be my pikc to start over Yates...

    On another note, looking at that list, I am just sitting here acknowledging how much I LOVE Logan Mankins!

    He's a bad-a s s and he's out there every week!

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    I give Wilson the nod over Hawkins when it comes to speed, but other than that, I'm not sure we're not beter off with Hawkins than Wilson.

    Also, Belichick and staff do such a good job of making us (and I assume the players) think we're playing the '85 Bears every week, that we forget that our opponents have issues, too.

    Minnesota is banged up at wideout, I believe, so the secondary will be okay, I think.

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    Thanks, I meant the one that kept him out of action for so long early in his career. ;) I'm pretty nervous about this injury.....................:(
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    My understanding was that both shoulders were injured, each one costing him a season - he was forced to wear a special harness that prevents him from reaching up to far...
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    Yeah, I think you're right........I don't remember if he's injured both shoulders or not since being a Patriot. In any case, a serious injury to Neal would definitely hurt the running game. If the Pats are going to win tonight I think it will have to be in the passing game.
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    If Kaczur starts tonight...

    LT - Light (2001, 2nd round)
    LG - Mankins (2005, 1st round)
    C - Koppen (2003, 5th round)
    RG - Kaczur (2005, 3rd round)
    RT - O'Callaghan (2006, 5th round)

    ...

    Not too many teams can attest to having their entire starting line being recent draft picks.
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    If Kaczur's healthy enough to start tonight, I wonder if they wouldn't put him in at RT and move O'Callaghan inside to RG.

    O'C has struggled the last few games at tackle, seeming to have trouble getting his hands on his guy. At guard, he'd be able to make easier use out of his size + power.
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    That's a good point.
    We'll see who lines up where soon enough. I still expect Yates to get the nod, but you never know what BB has up his sleeves. ;)

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