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  1. Box_O_Rocks

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    Week six brings us to everybody's favorite - Tight Ends!

    Board History:
    Week 1: OC/OG - http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=51105
    Week 2: DL - http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=51395
    Week 3: OT - http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=51983
    Week 4: CB - http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=52730
    Week 5: LB - http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=53088

    Athletic receivers, devastating blockers, Special Teams' aces, the Pats love their Tight Ends. Currently they have five TEs on the roster, but when BB goes grocery shopping in the draft that old TE hunger is always lurking.

    Current Tight Ends:
    Kyle Brady 6-6 280
    Matt Kranchick 6-7 260
    Garrett Mills 6-1 235
    David Thomas 6-3 248
    Benjamin Watson 6-3 255
     
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    rookBoston 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    Right now, the roster is deeper with pass-catching TEs than run blocking/pass blocking TEs. The pickup of Brady to backfill Graham is a stop-gap measure, and not something that will solve the need for more than a year or so. If we draft a TE, he will be a big, physical guy, with good feet. If he's a threat in the passing game, too, so much the better.

    It's not impossible that we draft a TE in the first round. With all the talk of DB and LB, it would be classic BB to see value in a TE at 28, especially if 24 is a quality defensive player.
     
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    I will pick up my television and throw it through the window, if an effin TE is drafted on Saturday.

    Given Maroney' shoulder surgery, a RB draft board is next on my must-see list.
     
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    The TE class is, in a word, weak. I don't see anything more than a late-round flier on a raw prospect. My list:

    Ben Patrick 6'4" 268 4.84 1.65/2.71
    Clark Harris TE Rutgers 6-6 257 4.84 1.67/2.76
    Kevin Boss TE Western Oregon 6-7 255 4.78 1.68/2.8
    Michael Allan TE Whitworth 6-6 252 4.71 1.61/2.68
    Jonathan Allen TE Norfolk State 6-4 235 4.59
     
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    I have to disagree, I really think it is impossible -- simply because this is a lousy year for tight ends. Greg Olsen is uniformly regarded as the best of the bunch, and I think he's seriously overrated. There's no TE I see as good value at 28. if David Thomas were in this draft he'd likely be the 2nd TE off the board!
     
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    We'll draft a tight end. But probably day 2. BB has proven me wrong before though.
     
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    I think the Patriots knew this years TE class was going to be weak, which is partly why they drafted Thomas, and Mills last year.
     
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    Olsen is overrated because of his superman performance at the combine. He was inconsistant in College, and a horrid blocker. He really shouldn't even be an option. NE put him through a private workout though, which kind of worries me:(
     
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    A very weak Tight End class, nobody before round Three appears to have the value I'd like for their projected draft position.

    Third round

    Kevin Boss (Western Oregon) - The player who would appear to have the most upside is Kevin Boss (Western Oregon) who broke 7 seconds in the 3-cone at 6'6 1/2" 252. His stock has moved him up NFLDraftScout.com's projections from 6th round to late 3rd. A team who values TEs and has the patience to develop a raw player with his apparent upside is likely to find him an attractive target.

    Scott Chandler (Iowa) - I thought he stood out as the better blocker of the TEs invited to the Senior Bowl.

    Fourth/Fifth rounds

    Joe Newton (Oregon State) - He caught my eye in the Boise State game back in the early part of the season.

    Clark Harris (Rutgers) - I caught a couple Rutgers' games this past season and thought he played well. He also looked good in a brief glimpse during Senior Bowl week before he left with an injury.

    Sixth/Seventh rounds

    Jonny Harline (BYU) - Productive receiver in a pass oriented offense.

    Dante Rosario (Oregon) - Natural receiver who made the transition from fullback to tight end over the final two seasons of his career. Surprisingly athletic, Rosario can generate yards after the catch and is tough to bring down. Blessed with soft hands and quick change of direction to develop into a fine route-runner. Selfless player who signed with Oregon as a linebacker before being switched first to fullback, then tight end. Accomplished special teams performer.

    Daniel Coats (BYU) - Their blocking TE, he looked good in his drills at the Combine and improved his 40 time at his Pro-day.

    UDFA - Two kids who showed early promise before being sidelined by injury may be good developmental projects.

    Dan Murray (Connecticut) - Decent Pro-day numbers per NFLDraftScout.com.
    Height: 6047
    Weight: 256
    40 Yrd Dash: 4.75
    20 Yrd Dash: 2.81
    10 Yrd Dash: 1.64
    225 Lb. Bench Reps: 22
    Vertical Jump: 33 1/2
    20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.38
    3-Cone Drill: 6.81
    - Regarded as the premier tight end in the Big East Conference and a member of the John Mackey Award (nation's best tight end) 2006 preseason Watch List, Murray was primed for a banner senior season. On Aug. 21, he suffered a left high ankle that kept him out of the first three games of the 2006 season, and he saw limited action in three others while continuing his rehabilitation. Just when he was returning to full health, he suffered a right shoulder sprain against Syracuse, forcing him to appear only on special teams at the end of a trying '06 season.
    - 03/30/07 - Gloucester High alumnus Dan Murray may have revived his chances of being selected in the 2007 NFL Draft. The 6-foot-5, 258 pound recent University of Connecticut graduate believes his stock increased after an audition before seven NFL scouts at UConn's Pro Day. Murray clocked the fastest time of any tight end prospect in the country this season in the NFL's standard agility drill (three cone L-drill, 6.78 seconds). He also improved his top 40-yard dash time from 4.81 to 4.75. In a test of strength, Murray performed 22 repetitions of 225 pounds on the bench press. Coming off an injury-plagued senior season, Murray was not one of 300 prospects invited to last month's NFL Combine in Indianapolis, Ind. He felt he needed a breakout performance on Saturday to convince scouts he was completely healed from a severely sprained ankle that kept him out of two games during his senior season. "I got the numbers I needed to get," Murray said. "It went as well as I could've expected." - Dan Guttenplan, Gloucester Daily Times

    Matt Herian (Nebraska) - 03/08/07 - Pro day: One ex-Husker who definitely should have opened some eyes Wednesday was tight end Matt Herian. Running his first 40 since suffering a broken leg during the 2004 season, the Pierce product showed a burst that led him to be a first-team All-big 12 Conference player as a freshman. Herian said his 4.7-something time was the best since running a 4.67 as a freshman. Back then, he weighed closer to 220. On Wednesday, he tipped the scales at 242. β€œI hope it kind of re-opened some eyes,” Herian said. β€œSome guys liked me before my injury, and kind of questioned me afterwards. Hopefully after seeing that today, they see me back to where I was.” Herian also said he recorded a 38-inch vertical jump, but the 40 time was the mark he considered special. β€œI think that shows explosiveness. When you do the 40, a lot of people time (you at) 10 (and) 20 (yards), so they see how fast you're getting out and how fast you're getting downfield,” he said. β€œSpecifically in my position, a lot of teams are looking for a guy who can go downfield, get on top of that safety real fast. And a 40's just a good measure of all of that.” - Curt McKeever, Lincoln Journal Star
     
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    Let's just draft all the tight ends and put an all tight end team on the field. Who would you guard? Muhahaha. Ok, calming down now.
     
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    Box what information do you have on Matt Spaeth, Minnesota I heard that he is a good blocking tight end and I'm sure he knows Maroney pretty good so that gives the Patriots some more info on him.
     
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    NFLDraftScout.com considers him to be slow and not such a hot blocker - they have his stock dropping.
     
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