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    Re: Bruschi:patriots just weren't prepared

    Hopefully with your speed and good tacling of last year you would stop Rice:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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    Re: Bruschi:patriots just weren't prepared

    If Pees and OB are back next season I'm going to lose it. Put your ego aside for a second BB, admitt you made bad coaching hires.
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    Re: Bruschi:patriots just weren't prepared

    Hey Tedy, would you be interested in a coaching job? Please come back and coach the linebackers/defense. We could use ya, buddy.
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    Re: Bruschi:patriots just weren't prepared

    Not prepared? That usually points to coaching.

    Who deserves the blame for this, BB?
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    Re: Bruschi:patriots just weren't prepared

    It seems to fly in the face of what Brady was saying. I'm not certain that Tedy is using his words in the typical way we understand them. He says they weren't prepared but then he attacks their intensity. Brady says they were very well prepared, the most prepared team in the league but that they did not come out to play. In other words, they agree, both think they lacked intensity. For Bruschi, intensity is a part of preparation, and for Brady it has more to do with gameplan.
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    Re: Bruschi:patriots just weren't prepared

    I dunno. I think Bruschi's analysis covers some rather obvious points. I mean, I think we all probably noticed that the Ravens were able to run the ball at will and that, without Welker, Brady was having to hold the ball longer....

    I don't think we can conclude that the Patriots "weren't ready to play". To contrary, it been pretty obvious all season that the Patriots aren't a very good team, certainly not a championship contending team. They are what they are this year: probably an 8-8 team that won 10 games because it's a well run, well coached operation.

    There's not much you can do to "prepare" for an opponent when you simply aren't talented or experienced or good enough to beat that opponent. Belichick summed it up pretty well post-game when he said that the Ravens were simply better than the Patriots in every phase of the game. I think that's true.
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    I took Tedy's commentary to say that they team wasn't mentally prepared as in not ready to play with playoff intensity.
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    I look at points 4 and 5 as the two most telling observations. Unfortunately, both are items that many people here understood to be problems as early as last offseason, but they were never adequately addressed by the team.
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    Re: Bruschi:patriots just weren't prepared

    Bruschi is clearly referring to preparation in terms of intensity.
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    Believe it or not I am actually sorry to see your team's season end at the hands of the Ravens. I was looking forward to our team playing your team in Indy this year. Make no mistake though, you lost to a very good Ravens team, you have previously had a rough time with anyway. We get them this week and may lose to them as well. I hope not because I really want us to play the Chargers and beat them. I think that this has been one crazy playoff year. Pitt not in it and now the Jets being in it. (courtesy of us:() I think that if the Colts played the way the Patriots did they would have gotten booed as well. It may not be right but it is what fans have the right to do. I think you still have a hell of a team and just need a few personnel tweaks and game planning. Here is looking forward to 2010, when we play you in Foxboro.:rolleyes:
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    Foxboro has certainly missed Peyton. The place will look forward to welcoming him back with open arms next season. :cool:
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    Solid post.

    Just remember, if your OL gives Manning any time whatsoever, he will light up the Ravens' poor d-backfield, as long as he keeps track of where Ed Reed is.

    I'm hoping the Colts lose obviously, but your OL may give you a better shot than ours. I admire one guy on your team besides Manning and that's Reggie Wayne, who--though he's well regarded--is actually underrated. He's tremendous and I would seriously think of taking him as my #1 receiver if I were in a league wide draft. I don't think anyone runs better routes.
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    even after falling behind 24-0 two instances stood out. pats got the ball twice once on a 3and out and once on the INT and didnt do anything with. The defense got the rvens in their own endzone and couldnt stop them from running. it tells it was a total complimentary failure...
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    Eh, you're going up a slippery slope with the homers on that one.
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    Re: Bruschi:patriots just weren't prepared

    Coaching can only go so far. Coaches don't win games, players do.

    And yesterday, the players showed they didn't want it.
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    Re: Bruschi:patriots just weren't prepared

    So why was the intensity not there? Did the team believe they didn't have the talent to go far as they would like so they mailed it in?
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    Re: Bruschi:patriots just weren't prepared

    checkout curran's article today.i think he somewhat nails it ...
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    Re: Bruschi:patriots just weren't prepared

    It's a different team, different mentality.

    Did you see the Patriots locker room issues this year?

    I mean, Adalius Thomas? A couple of others.

    This should come as no surprise. Adalius was the guy out of position who allowed the long Ray Rice run. Then the young players get demoralized because a high paid veteran is not playing with the intensity needed. In Belichick's non-attacking style of defense, everyone needs to do "their job." If one cog is out position, then what's the point?
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    Not to mention Edelman's big return, and nothing to show for it. There were plenty chances to get back in the game and the team just had no fight or answers. How about getting within 27-14 and then the Special Teams gives up a huge return, they just didn't want the game at all when Baltimore did open doors.
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    Re: Bruschi:patriots just weren't prepared

    Perfectly put, players win games. Coaches can lose games but players win games.

    I'm not sure the players didn't want it, in fact I'm sure they did. But they were certainly not aware of how much different the intensity level is from the regular season to the postseason. Too many young guys playing important roles and feeling their way through it yesterday. There is only so much coaching can do and so much others can tell you about it, some players have to experience it for themselves before they can adjust.

    Also, there are some holes on this team that I'm sure will be addressed but maybe we all expected too much from a team clearly in transition. Bruschi, Rodney, Vrabel, Seymour couldn't play on this team forever and the transition had to be made at some point if this team is looking to be succesful in the future. Some night argue that Vrabel and or Seymour should have stayed but that would have only pushed this learning process into the future. The Pats took their medicine this season and will be better off for it going forward. A lot of young players received lots of playing time and learned some very valuable lessons about life in the NFL.
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    IMO, this whole psychoanalysis of whether they were intense enough or wanted it enough is overrated. IMO, this team had serious weaknesses and showed those weaknesses from the start of preseason through the entire 16 game season. Look how many fourth quarter leads they blew. Look how many long third down conversions they gave up. Look how many turnovers at the goal line killed them.

    The offense was obviously disappointing. I think we all intuitively knew at the start of the year that the all pass all the time Air Belichick offense had run its course and that Brady would get killed if the Pats didn't develop a balanced running attack. I think the coaching staff knew that, which is why they went into the year heavy on running back depth. For whatever reason, the Pats were never able to establish a run game and, predicatably, Brady got killed. With Welker out of the lineup, this offense had no prayer. It was an all-pass, all-the-time offense with no receivers.
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    When the starting right tackle(Vollmer) has more tackles (2) than the starting dlinemen (Green) then you know it's been a long day.

    To many posers on this team, Merriweather gets burnt all game than dances after breaking up a pass down 17 points.

    Are these guys listening to BB or AT? Seems AT is having more influence and BB is being tuned out.
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    When the schemas are so predictable on offense and vanilla on defense you can have all the players in the world but if they arent put in a postion to make plays you get **** results. Watch a replay of Dallas offensice play calling last weekend and then ours, we are running the freshman football offense compared to what they were doing.
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    Dagg,

    Our offense was so predictable that on tv it showed Ray Lewis screaming "draw! draw! draw!" while the Pats were lining up, and sure enough it was a draw to Kevin Faulk. New OC, new plays, new players...new scheme this one isn't working anymore.
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    That was a terminology issue, not a play calling issue.
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    Exactly. I think Brady eluded to the fact that BB wasn't happy with the way this team practiced this week. They were given the information, they are always well prepared from a coaching standpoint, they just didn't digest it or perhaps grasp the significance of the week or what has in the past led to the Patriots performing better than average more often than not...committment to executing the game plan. Young players, lack of experience, veterans who didn't have the kind of how we win experience to even pass on. Coaches coach, players play. This was on the players to a large extent, although the FO bears some responsibility for not providing sufficient talent or veteran experience on both sides of the ball. Hopefully both sides learn from this experience.
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    Deus Irae, it's not so much a terminology issue (plays can be called anything) as it is a predictability issue. Ray Lewis knew what the plays were by the formation, personal, Bradys blocking assignment calls. These things need to be changed so the other team at least has to guess at what is coming...not know for sure.
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    There were miscalculations made but it wasn't the coaching staff or even the scheme. Watch the rest of the playoffs and you will see. We lacked sufficient functional weapons at the WR position not because they didn't think they needed some but because the guys they brough in didn't pan out and they had to go to plan B which was cross your fingers and hope Edleman or Aiken can handle the opportunity. They even made some moves to upgrade the OL but it was too little too late. The OL is worse than Bill estimated and it impacts all aspects of this offense. They brought in some veteran talent on offense and defense but it lacks the winning foundation that guys who left here had and it's tough to lead from the tub, too. I think Bruschi retiring was a blow given Rodney couldn't make it back. I think Bill figured he had one more year of one of them. He went to Junior as the last ditch alternative but Junior isn't exactly the same kind of leader either Rodney or Bruschi was here because he never did win a ring. Some will say he could have kept Vrabel or Seymour in the interim but neither of them was that kind of leader either, and both of them had issues that were beginning to overshadow their ability to lead effectively here. It was kind of a perfect storm season...
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