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Bengals released LB Brian Simmons

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  1. broadwayjoe

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    It comes as a surprise considering Cincy's thin LB group, but the warning signs were there. Simmons was due to make $3.3 million, couldn't stay healthy all season, and is recovering from knee surgery. He also wasn't a Marvin Lewis draft pick. The nine-year veteran should be able to get a job elsewhere.

    http://www.bengals.com/


    What do you think about taking a look at him.
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    And he didn't have a criminal record.

    (Or did he?)
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    real good player is a good character guy to , would fill the void in the middle until the young players get up to speed
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    If healthy, Simmons could be a very good fit in this defense having experience in the 3-4. He'd be the kind of veteran addition you'd expect the Pats to make, IMHO.
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    Looks like he would be worth a shot at ILB. The only problem is like all of our other LBs, he's on the wrong side of 30.
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    I agree that he would be worth a shot at the vet min or a little more.
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    Would be good stop gap. Same age as Fletcher-Baker.
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    That also means the Bengals may be drafting LB in the first.
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    Only a much better fit as a 3-4 ILB than Fletcher is.
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    Since he was cut he can be signed before the free agency period begins.
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    Stop it, we're not allowed to agree. :D
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    I'm thinking if Cincy cut him loose, he's likely not very healthy.
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    wow first moulds now simmons
    some solid vets being cut that i didnt expect
    id def take a shot on both honestly

    simmons has played outside and inside
    has decent size (6'3" 244 lbs)
    and would be a pretty good stopgap type player for us
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    He could be worth a shot for depth and possible rotation, but not as an every down starter.
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    well we need one vet inside linebacker
    wheter it be him, seau or edwards
    we cant just draft a couple
    we have to pair bru with a vet and a rookie at least one each
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    Of course we need one vet inside linebacker, but IMO, Brian Simmons or Seau DO NOT fit the bill. Both of those guys might be okay as situational players, but what we need is a starter. Donnie Edwards might fit the bill, but he is awfully small to play ILB in this defense.

    So I'm okay with bringing in a guy like Simmons, or maybe even bringing back Seau (he's gonna be 38 for crying out loud!), but they'd better bring in somebody that can be a viable starter as well.
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    That's why they got rid of him, he doesn't have one.....
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    One of the few class acts in Cincy, he probably wanted to leave with all the crap going on. I believe he is kind of getting up there in age though, and doesn't really fit the mold of a 3-4 LB.
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    Yes, that's what I was insinuating.
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    How about if we just agree to work out every single player who is cut by every team?

    Has there been a single player yet that has been cut or rumored to be about to be cut, or whose might be traded, that someone has not asked, "What do you think about taking a look at him?"
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    Go to the Marshall Faulk or Eric Moulds thread. This one is actually pretty reasonable.
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    It's time for cuts and free agency. Doesn't it make sense to you that people on a football team's message board would want to discuss the different players who are becoming available, on areas of perceived need for the team, especially at this time in the off-season? I think it'd be ridiculous to expect otherwise.
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    and who do u propose?
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    well when its a linebacker that is over 240 lbs, yeah

    and when its a wr that has been productive before, ditto
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    Clearly, Adalius Thomas is the top choice. The guy is as good a fit for the system as you will ever find. I've come to accept, however, that he will probably sign a monster contract with somebody, and given that he is 30 years old, I'm not sure its wise for the Pats to get in that type of bidding war for him. Sadly, I see the 49ers or Green Bay as more willing to throw boatloads of money at him. I'm thinking a signing bonus in the area of $18 million is not an outrageous prediction, and I don't see the Pats giving up that much.

    After that, Jarret Johnson (Thomas' backup in Baltimore, but also a free agent) would be a great addition. He has played sparingly, but all indications are that he can play, and the guy has fantastic size for a linebacker in the 3-4.

    London Fletcher-Baker would be a good addition. He is old, but can still play, and Belichick has spoken very highly of him in the past.

    Then, like I said before, there is Donnie Edwards from San Diego. His coverage skills would be quite valuable, given that this was clearly exposed as a weakness in our current LB corps. However, he is very small for an ILB in this system, so I'm not sure he'd hold up against the run.

    If necessary, I could see the Pats going for an OLB and keeping Vrabel inside next year. Obviously that is not ideal, but if there simply weren't any viable options at ILB they might have to resort to it.
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    as ive been saying since sept
    im on board with gettin adalius
    he would be outside though

    as for fletcher-baker, ive always been a fan, but honestly i view simmons not that far off, and hes younger and would come cheaper

    as for donnie, i too love his pass coverage ability and would def take him if the price is right
    i was actually in here last yr very adamantly sayin the pats should trade a pick for him
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    honestly, i dont know enough about the guy
    one thing i do know, a lot of ppl were talkin similarly bout beisel
    as much as id be willing to welcome him as a rotation guy
    im not so sure id feel comfortable with him as a starter right away like that
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    is there at least a decent chance since baltimore wont resign a thomas, that they resign him because he has played so sparingly, and could see this as his best chance to start?
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    thats what ive been wondering myself
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    No, they weren't. Johnson has played DE, MLB, and OLB for the Ravens. Jarrett's regular rotation had him replacing Thomas or Suggs. However, when Ray Lewis was out, Jarrett filled in and didn't miss a beat. All people said about Beisel is that he was a PROJECT at ILB being that he has played DE and was in the process of moving to OLB for the Chiefs when they moved him inside for several games before he got injured.

    And, Yes, I can speak on the subject because I was one of the ones who was excited about Beisel's potential and I can admit that I over-estimated it. However, I also felt that he'd have Ted Johnson next to him for a full season. That didn't happen and things didn't pan out for him.

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