What makes them the best is not only the numbers, but how complimentary they are. Wes is the possession receiver, and with Moss' bad back, is the primary target for moving the chains. Moss is the scoring threat and the homerun threat that stretches the field for Wes. So it's a perfect fit.
I think it's pretty open and shut that the best receiving duo in the NFL are Randy Moss and Wes Welker. Below are their stats and the category they lead in is bold:
Whats really scary is that Welker missed 2 games and Moss has basically played with a bad back all season, which is kryptonite...
He would've had a better game against Denver if Brady wasn't off, so I wouldn't entirely put that on Moss. Plus Moss has had good games against Champ Bailey in the past. But regarding Revis, you're right, he's done a very good job on Moss since the 2007 season opener. We'll see what happens this...
Exactly, the moment it becomes a Branch/Moss comparison, and Branch wins out, is when I start scratching my head. The fact that most callers agree, or at least don't disagree, with his analyses, is a testament to their listening audience and not Pats fans as a whole.
I actually agree with Rob regarding Felger in comp-arison to the Big Show, which is so insufferable with guests. If callers disagree with them they're quickly shouted down, made fun of, and ultimately hung up on. They're simply incapable of having civil back and forth debates with their callers...
I've been listening to Felger/Massoriti at work and Felger is hellbent on pushing this theory that Deion Branch was a tougher receiver to shutdown than Randy Moss, and that Moss can't perform in big games and against physical receivers. He is also suggesting that the offense was better with...
Re: Then vs Now: The Ring Years vs 2005 and Beyond
I think it primarily comes down to the defense not having the same playmakers combined with bad luck. Its not rational to claim the '07-'09 offense with Moss and Welker hasn't been as productive or as good, when the numbers and evidence suggest...
It's pretty obvious that the road to the SB goes through Indy. That being said, the Pats showed everybody and themselves last night that a January game in Indy is winnable. The 2 biggest reasons:
1)Volmer proved he could at least contain Freeney, and that pretty much is the difference between...
There are 2 ways of evaluating the team MVP: a)you can measure performance along with ability or b)you can use raw performance and effect on the game irrespective of the players ability.
If you use the former, Welker is the obvious MVP choice, he has raised his game more than any other...
He has 3 of the top 6 seasons:
#1 - 23 TDs - Moss 2008
#2 - 22 TDs - Rice 1987
#3 - 18 TDs - Clayton 1984
#5 - 18 TDs - Rice 1990
#5 - 17 TDs - Moss 1998
#5 - 17 TDs - Moss 2003
He's the only player to appear 3 times in the top 10, no one even appears twice besides Rice. I also don't...
It would be better if this didn't dissolve into a Moss vs. Welker thread. But fwiw, the most overrated statistic for a WR is receptions. Its inflated and doesn't tell you anything unless you add a yardage figure to the catch, which is why the only 2 stats I use for WRs are Yards and TDs.
I agree, Welker should be this teams MVP. But there is middle ground between saying Wes is MVP and Moss hasn't had a good season. I think Moss has gone under the radar and has been great for the Pats this year. He isn't getting 23 TDs but he'll have 1000+ Yards again and lead the NFL in TDs...again.
Although you could make a case for Moss as team MVP, I still think Welker gets the edge for team MVP because he adjusted quicker to Cassel, since Cassel picked up the short game with more ease. But Moss has gone under the radar imo, he will end the season with 1000+ Yards and at least 11 TDs...
Some of you are being a tad too sensitive...the OP was complimenting Moss. Considering the QB change and adjustment with Cassel, the fact that Moss is on pace for 11 TDs and 1000+ Yards is pretty damm impressive. That he's been a leader on the team only adds to his value.
Re: Moss this season.....
Just so you guys know, despite having a new QB, who is essentially a rookie and needed time to adjust to the longball, Randy Moss is on pace for about 80 rec, 1100 YDs and 11 TDs. For some WRs thats a career season and considering the circumstances, its even a good...
I thought the offensive gameplan was pretty good for the most part. You work with what you have, and right now Cassel is not at a point where he can win games for the team, he just needs to not lose. Think Brady in 2001 and Rothlesberger in 2004. What that means is a more conservative passing...
I dont know..i remember that game differently, I distinctly remember the Giants secondary routinely getting beat but Brady having no time to hit his receivers. I do agree that they used a lot of single converage on Moss, I just dont think it was that effective.
Re: Pass Receiving Seperation & the Lack of It
The analysis of Chad Jackson seems awfully similar to that of Stallworth. Daunte's problem last year, and for much of his career, was an inability to create the downfield seperation needed, despite a high 40 time. Even the few times Brady threw a...
Yeah, the Pats could've won the SB in each of the past two seasons, and, last year in particular, they were obviously the best team in the NFL That being said, you can't pick and choose only the games where things went wrong for the team, it doesnt work that way. When the Pats won 3 in 4 SBs, A...
Whaaaaaaat?? Did you watch the divisional playoff game against the Jags?? If there's one receiver defenses have to adjust for its Moss, and we saw it all of last season. Randy Moss is the epitome of forcing other teams to make accomodations in their defense.
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