Post NFL draft: Which AFC East team got stronger based on draft alone?

In this Order (highlight players selected):

Bills - ShaqLawson, A.Washington, CardaleJones A-
Dolphins - XavienHoward, KenyanDrake, LeonteCarroo B+
Jets - JordanJenkins, C
Patriots - CyrusJones C-

It means zippo. It's all to do with talent and how that talent is coached/fits in each specific system. No other team in the AFCE is isn't dumpster fire so the new rookies will have burdens put on them that they cannot handle.

Loved the Bills draft. Doesn't matter. We'll still be playing when it counts and they will be crowing about another off season trophy.

Draft grades right after the draft are dumb. . In 3 years Pats draft could be an A and the Bills could be a D.

Cyrus Jones could be a very good #2. Thuney could be the starting RT and playing at pro bowl level, Valentine could be a solid contributor in the DT rotation. Mitchell and Lucien could be starting WRs or they could all not pan out.

But to answer the question "Based on draft alone", no team got stronger because none of these players have proven anything at the nfl level.

Draft opinions or grades are the most idiotic effort so far for the NFL to continue its media dominance between now and the next scheduled activity.. have to give them credit for trying, but it means absolutely nothing.

Didn't the Dolphins draft Laremy Tunsil?

I don't care. NE is still the best team in the AFC.

Pats were not drafting for starters......IMHO they were drafting mainly for depth.

They have enough talent at all positions to field a playoff team as it stands before the draft......any rookie who plays a major contribution this year will be a bonus.....

IllegalContact said:

Didn't the Dolphins draft Laremy Tunsil?

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And his bong.

"The Miami Dolphins have spent more days in first place this offseason than the New England Patriots.".

-Joint statement from Dan Duquette and Don Sweeney

BlueThunder said:

Pats were not drafting for starters......IMHO they were drafting mainly for depth.

They have enough talent at all positions to field a playoff team as it stands before the draft......any rookie who plays a major contribution this year will be a bonus.....

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While I understand what you are getting at, I politely suggest you're suggestion doesn't make much sense. Every single pick must be utilized to its fullest lest a team slip into oblivion. See any one of dozens of examples around the NFL. The Pats are hardly impervious to the harsh truth the draft must supply your team with the best possible young, cheap talent. Given this cold hard football fact why in the name of Knute Rockne would any team, including the supremely talented Pats, intentionally draft subpar talent so they can be backups? Do you mean for example that Belichick and Caserio passed over Devante Booker to draft Vincent Valentine because they didn't want to get a star RB but instead favored a backup DT to add "depth"? Perhaps you were thinking of Cleveland and how they draft...

How do we know who got better when the drafted players haven't played a down yet? It will take at least a few years to find out who got better or worse.

Brady'sButtBoy said:

While I understand what you are getting at, I politely suggest you're suggestion doesn't make much sense. Every single pick must be utilized to its fullest lest a team slip into oblivion. See any one of dozens of examples around the NFL. The Pats are hardly impervious to the harsh truth the draft must supply your team with the best possible young, cheap talent. Given this cold hard football fact why in the name of Knute Rockne would any team, including the supremely talented Pats, intentionally draft subpar talent so they can be backups? Do you mean for example that Belichick and Caserio passed over Devante Booker to draft Vincent Valentine because they didn't want to get a star RB but instead favored a backup DT to add "depth"? Perhaps you were thinking of Cleveland and how they draft...

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Nope. Just means that he doesn't think that Booker will be a star RB, and that Valentine has a chance to be more valuable. Pretty simple. Time will tell.

(I really don't understand the intense need to know something now about how the Pats did in the draft, when history has proven a thousand times that there's no way to know. It is a setup for emotional frustration.)

zipster9 said:

In this Order (highlight players selected):

Bills - ShaqLawson, A.Washington, CardaleJones A-
Dolphins - XavienHoward, KenyanDrake, LeonteCarroo B+
Jets - JordanJenkins, C
Patriots - CyrusJones C-

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Once again we lose the draft Superbowl. I don't think we've ever won (well, except in 2000, but nobody knew it). Sigh...

Time to start thinking about 2017.

Patriots duuuuuuuuuuuuuh. How can anyone possibly say those clowns the rats, that baffoon, or that idiot tannebaum had the better draft! Honestly now!

I was immediately thinking Jacksonville

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I guarantee that at least one of the teams that got universal respect for having a great draft last week will end up having a bust draft and one team that everyone hated their draft will get 2-3 solid starting starters. Why are we judging whether teams got better or not two days after the draft?

It's hard to have an awesome draft class when you're picking at the bottom of every round and the NFL took your first round pick away for no reason at all.

Most people thought the Pats had the worst 2013 draft of the AFCE. The Jets had set their organization up for the future by drafting three premium talents in Dee Milliner, Sheldon Richardson and Geno Smith. The Dolphins got Dion Jordan, and the Bills got EJ Manuel, Robert Woods, and Kiko Alonso. Meanwhile, the Pats just got Jamie Collins, Duron Harmon, and Logan Ryan. An uninspiring trio, all reaches, who were at least cancelled out by getting two kinda promising WRs in Dobson and Boyce.

3 years later, it turns out that pretty much everything we thought about htat draft was wrong. Of all the players listed, Richardson and Collins are by far the two best, and it's pretty clear that the Pats had the best draft class of the division. And even within that, it was the best not because of the guys we were actually excited to get.

That's not to say that taking a guess at who did the best is entirely worthless, just that it's generally misguided to assign much value to that. For example, as it currently stands I'm not really a fan of the Pats' draft. Based on what little I've seen, I don't really like the Jones, Thuney, or Brissett picks. I was a big fan of both the Mitchell and Lucien picks. But having said that, it all has to come with the caveat that I have no real idea where this all ends up. If Jimmy G becomes a trade asset, and having Brissett in the wings means the Pats are willing to trade him after this season, then that pick could end up being worth it. Maybe Thuney turns into a really good player. Maybe Jones becomes a better version of Logan Ryan. I dunno.

I'm also significantly lower on the Bills' draft class and higher on the Jets' draft class than OP is.

Brady'sButtBoy said:

While I understand what you are getting at, I politely suggest you're suggestion doesn't make much sense. Every single pick must be utilized to its fullest lest a team slip into oblivion. See any one of dozens of examples around the NFL. The Pats are hardly impervious to the harsh truth the draft must supply your team with the best possible young, cheap talent. Given this cold hard football fact why in the name of Knute Rockne would any team, including the supremely talented Pats, intentionally draft subpar talent so they can be backups? Do you mean for example that Belichick and Caserio passed over Devante Booker to draft Vincent Valentine because they didn't want to get a star RB but instead favored a backup DT to add "depth"? Perhaps you were thinking of Cleveland and how they draft...

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Maybe I should have worded my post differently.....remember...it is only my opinion.....the Pats were eyeing the future as much as the present...drafting in the position they were meant that the chances of getting a rookie that will outperform any of their starters at a particular position was unlikely. It doesn't mean that it won't happen or that BB was drafting inferior/subpar talent. Those are your words, not mine. He drafts smart football players that are usually team captains or locker room leaders...next year when they have x amount of cap space and y amount of players that have outplayed their current contracts hopefully a few of this year's draftees will be stepping into starter roles.......

IMHO

BT