2016 Draft Day 3: Rounds 4-7 Thread

Brady6 · Apr 30, 2016

JMC00 said:
Pats have had a pretty decent success rate in the 4th round

Who do you think was the most pretty?

Ivan · Apr 30, 2016

manxman2601 said:
I like swain and PFF's Sam Monson really likes Anthony. He's undersized though.

Manx, please don't cite Sam Monson. He's a moron. He's the guy who claimed Brady was no longer elite and on his way out two years ago. There are very few people with less credibility in this forum.

Ivan · Apr 30, 2016

patsinthesnow said:
The Cowboys better hope Elliott is a superstar because they could've had Collins/Williams pound behind that OL in the 4th/5th rounds. Wouldn't have passed on Ramsey.

I was happy they took him. I really believe he was the guy the dolphins were after and that they would have traded up for him if he reached the eight to ten area.

manxman2601 · Apr 30, 2016

Ivan said:
Manx, please don't cite Sam Monson. He's a moron. He's the guy who claimed Brady was no longer elite and on his way out two years ago. There are very few people with less credibility in this forum.

I know how you feel about PFF, you really don't need to keep telling me. I find him useful when scouting the draft and often agree with him.

rookBoston · Apr 30, 2016

Waiting for the Keenan pick. It'll come

OhExaulted1 · Apr 30, 2016

.....and with the 118th pick in the 2016 Draft, the New York Jets select......Tampering!

ViperGTS · Apr 30, 2016

Rappaport reports that the Pats were gonna take Smith with the 61st.

Thanks Goodell. That lost pick is a major detriment.

mgteich · Apr 30, 2016

Ross12 said:
So their "trade ammunition" is a mid-6th, low-6th, and two low-7th's. Not a whole lot to be able to trade into the 5th with, really. Would the two 6th's packaged together be enough to move up into the middle 5th?

It would be great if a 5th only cost a 6th and a 7th.

the two 6ths and a 7th might get us into the end of the 5th.

The most likely way to get into the 5th is to give our 4th and a 6 or two for a lower 4th and a 5th.

Ivan · Apr 30, 2016

manxman2601 said:
I know how you feel about PFF, you really don't need to keep telling me. I find him useful when scouting the draft and often agree with him.

I have been trying to temper my comments on PFF and have let the vast majority of posts citing them go by without comment, Monson is another story, he's an idiot and he knows absolutely nothing about football. I'm sorry to hear you take his views into consideration, I think you do a great job but that's a truly sh.tty source to use.

Ross12 · Apr 30, 2016

Brady6 said:
I don't really understand why people always say that is why we took Cardona in the 5th. There are about 300 players in the world that are picked to play in the NFL. I don't think being the 175th player says anything different to the military than the 300th.

Unless we were at war I cannot foresee the military denying any 20 something year old kid the opportunity to change their life in the way the NFL would allow.

They took Cardona because he can be their LS for the next decade and in a game where STs matter that is enough. People forget Slater was a 5th round pick, Ebner was a 6th round pick and Gostkowski was a 4th. Belichick has no problem using a middle round pick on a core STs player.

I say it because I've seen it said many times from writers and others. I have no doubt that BB valued Cardona as a 5th round pick regardless of his commitments, but that doesn't mean it didn't help.

jboston19 · Apr 30, 2016

patsinthesnow said:
The Cowboys better hope Elliott is a superstar because they could've had Collins/Williams pound behind that OL in the 4th/5th rounds. Wouldn't have passed on Ramsey.

Particularly surprising since I thought Jerry Jones loved his Razorbacks.

JMC00 · Apr 30, 2016

Bradyking12 said:
After that QB pick last nite can't watch anymore, looked like I seen a ghost after that pick

Pats take QBs in the 3rd rd, really isn't anything shocking about that pick

2014- Garoppolo (2nd rd)
2011- Mallett
2008- O'Connell
2002- Davey (was a 4th rd pick but was their 3rd player taken in that draft)

Anyone can see the writing on the wall, Garoppolo is likely to be dealt after this season with Brady signed through '19 and now they have his backup locked up till the end of Brady's contract.

Todd Bradley · Apr 30, 2016

manxman2601 said:
if you go by the value chart, trading the two 6s only gets you up to the higher end of the 6th.

I wouldn't mind making it 3 if we get a chance at one talented player.

At this point we need quality, not quantity.

Wheelman · Apr 30, 2016

When does it start? and whose twitter are you guys using?

JMC00 · Apr 30, 2016

patsinthesnow said:
The Cowboys better hope Elliott is a superstar because they could've had Collins/Williams pound behind that OL in the 4th/5th rounds. Wouldn't have passed on Ramsey.

Could still take Collins or Williams

3rd pick in the 4th. Also have a 4th round comp.

JMC00 · Apr 30, 2016

Wheelman said:
When does it start?

Noon

manxman2601 · Apr 30, 2016

Todd Bradley said:
I wouldn't mind making it 3 if we get a chance at one talented player.

At this point we need quality, not quantity.

My question is this. Are you more likely to guarantee quality by taking one pick at the end of the 5th/top of the 6th or by giving yourself three chances at similarly graded players in the 6th? I think you'd have to be very confident in your grade to reduce your chances of success from three shots to one shot.

JMC00 · Apr 30, 2016

Brady6 said:
Who do you think was the most pretty?

Gost followed by Samuel.

Hernandez could have been the prettiest but he screwed it up by being a murdering psychopath,

JMC00 · Apr 30, 2016

manxman2601 said:
My question is this. Are you more likely to guarantee quality by taking one pick at the end of the 5th/top of the 6th or by giving yourself three chances at similarly graded players in the 6th? I think you'd have to be very confident in your grade to reduce your chances of success from three shots to one shot.

In this draft i'd take my chances with the 3 unless they have someone on their board that is just miles ahead of everyone else and don't want to risk it.

Ross12 · Apr 30, 2016

manxman2601 said:
My question is this. Are you more likely to guarantee quality by taking one pick at the end of the 5th/top of the 6th or by giving yourself three chances at similarly graded players in the 6th? I think you'd have to be very confident in your grade to reduce your chances of success from three shots to one shot.

Yep, very true. There are a lot of good players in the later rounds. While a higher pick has a higher likelihood of getting you quality, you also give yourself more shots at quality with multiple later picks.

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