How Awful Was That Playcall By McDaniels/Brady on The Interception ?

I'm fine with the choice, as I said in the other thread. The Bills defense was flooding the field between the numbers with 7 or 8 guys. The lone deep safety was often cheating up to the line, pre-snap. A deep shot was needed to stretch their defense. The ball was simply underthrown. If it was overthrown, as most of Brady's deep balls into tight coverage tend to be, we wouldn't have this thread right now.

fnordcircle said:

That's a lot of caps but no example of how it's McDaniels' fault which is the only thing I'm questioning.

That INT was on Brady. If the play isn't there don't force it - like he did multiple times last night.

Click to expand...

For the SECOND time (yes, caps) I never said it was all McDaniels' fault. The thread title says Brady/McDaniels. Connotation meaning it was one or the other or both. Somewhere in that subset. Maybe they had discussed it earlier on the sideline, maybe McDaniels called it in, maybe it was all Brady's brainfart. We don't know.

Clear?

A poorly executed play always looks like a bad play call. People love to play Pin the Tail on the Coordinator.

After last season and with the way things have gone so far this year, McDaniels has established himself as being among the top offensive minds in the game. I'm certain the he (like anyone else) makes his share of mistakes, but the reality is that this guy is very good at his job and the Patriots are fortunate to have him as OC.

KontradictioN said:

I'm fine with the choice, as I said in the other thread. The Bills defense was flooding the field between the numbers with 7 or 8 guys. The lone deep safety was often cheating up to the line, pre-snap. A deep shot was needed to stretch their defense. The ball was simply underthrown. If it was overthrown, as most of Brady's deep balls into tight coverage tend to be, we wouldn't have this thread right now.

Click to expand...

Even a harmless incompletion there unneccessarily stops the clock on a 1st and 10, which is simply poor clock management. What actually occurred was much worse.

Zeus said:

A poorly executed play always looks like a bad play call. People love to play Pin the Tail on the Coordinator.

After last season and with the way things have gone so far this year, McDaniels has established himself as being among the top offensive minds in the game. I'm certain the he (like anyone else) makes his share of mistakes, but the reality is that this guy is very good at his job and the Patriots are fortunate to have him as OC.

Click to expand...

Look above your post to the previous.

McDaniels is the very best OC for this team. I would want no one else.

glm said:

That's what I like to call a "**** it" throw. Brett Favre was the master of these.

Click to expand...

Bledsoe was pretty damn good at them too.

shmessy said:

Look above your post to the previous.

McDaniels is the very best OC for this team. I would want no one else.

Click to expand...

Just saying what I think ...

shmessy said:

Even a harmless incompletion there unneccessarily stops the clock on a 1st and 10, which is simply poor clock management. What actually occurred was much worse.

Click to expand...

With the first sentence, so what? The reward of that working would have been greater than the risk. With the second sentence, blame Brady for a poor and underthrown ball. The call and decision were fine.

Zeus said:

A poorly executed play always looks like a bad play call. People love to play Pin the Tail on the Coordinator.

Click to expand...

Yes, but that doesn't mean it is impossible to call a bad play.

Wish their was a poll here so I don't actually have to type something. I think a pass play was ok...it was just not a good decision to throw in that direction under those circumstances.

shmessy said:

For the SECOND time (yes, caps) I never said it was all McDaniels' fault. The thread title says Brady/McDaniels. Connotation meaning it was one or the other or both. Somewhere in that subset. Maybe they had discussed it earlier on the sideline, maybe McDaniels called it in, maybe it was all Brady's brainfart. We don't know.

Clear?

Click to expand...

McDaniels doesn't belong in the discussion unless you believe that every playcall that doesn't result in a first down or whatever is a failure on the OC's part. Hence the results-oriented ****.

How about this - it was 99.99999999999% Brady's fault for heaving the ball into double coverage in that situation but ok super bad playcall on McDaniels part.

Now stop Shmessying me.

fnordcircle said:

Now stop Shmessying me.

Click to expand...

It's what I do, babe!

I saw it more as a surprise punt. A good one at that, pinned em at the 5!

KontradictioN said:

I'm fine with the choice, as I said in the other thread. The Bills defense was flooding the field between the numbers with 7 or 8 guys. The lone deep safety was often cheating up to the line, pre-snap. A deep shot was needed to stretch their defense. The ball was simply underthrown. If it was overthrown, as most of Brady's deep balls into tight coverage tend to be, we wouldn't have this thread right now.

Click to expand...

I agree. I'm fine with the call. They saw a chance to end the game, and did it. If it's complete, game's over. Brady should have thrown the ball away when he saw the coverage.

Oswlek said:

Yes, but that doesn't mean it is impossible to call a bad play.

Click to expand...

It's not like Brady doesn't have the ability to check out of the play and call his own either.

As for everyone saying it was an awful playcall, out of curiosity, what defensive package did the Bills counter with on that specific play? There may have been something specific they were planning on attacking. And they just picked up 27 yards on a pass to Gronk the play before. I get it.

The playcall is what it is. It didn't force Brady to throw that ball. It was a poor decision. Could have been a brilliant playcall with terrible execution for all we know. Maybe with better blocking, it goes for a TD.

alvinnf said:

I saw it more as a surprise punt. A good one at that, pinned em at the 5!

Click to expand...

I think Brady was caught by surprise just as I was. The Bills double teamed Harper with help over the top, who would have thought. Looks like Harper is respected by the other AFC East teams. Guy is All Pro next year.

convertedpatsfan said:

The playcall is what it is. It didn't force Brady to throw that ball. It was a poor decision. Could have been a brilliant playcall with terrible execution for all we know. Maybe with better blocking, it goes for a TD.

Click to expand...

-40 yard bomb
-5'10" receiver
-who has never caught a NFL pass before
-triple coverage (of course! Who else were those guys going to cover? It's not like they had their hands full with all those Patriots WR options in street clothes)
-10 point lead
-13;38 to go in game
-Bills had 1 timeout left
- 1st down play at the Bills 45

= I don't think the blocking was the real problem on that play.

One-If-By-Sea said:

I think Brady was caught by surprise just as I was. The Bills double teamed Harper with help over the top, who would have thought. Looks like Harper is respected by the other AFC East teams. Guy is All Pro next year.

Click to expand...

.....or that there were really few other threats for the Patriots in the game at that time!

They were already thin at WR and had subsequently lost Amendola and Dobson at that point!!!!

Hullo? Unless you or Brady missed the game until that moment.

.

horrendous int..made no sense
we finally get gronk the ball on a 25 yard pass/have decent field position then give it all away. a bomb to chris harper in double coverage.

shmessy said:

.....or that there were really few other threats for the Patriots in the game at that time!

They were already thin at WR and had subsequently lost Amendola and Dobson at that point!!!!

Hullo? Unless you or Brady missed the game until that moment.

.

Click to expand...

Dude, they play would have worked but Rex realized Harper was our secret weapon after reading Patsfans all week. Hence the surprise triple coverage.