Radio Frequency Leak?

With it all but certain that Mike Kensil is the one who leaked the 11 of 12 balls were 2 pounds to Mortensen after the AFC Championship game. I got me wondering if he was also the one who planted the "Patriots are being investigated on the number of radio frequencies" in Brady's helmet during the 2007 spy gate fiasco.

If I remember correctly......Mort was the one that broke that story, only to be proven false by Mike Reiss.

Thoughts?

SSDD with the NFL front office.

Nordberg said:

With it all but certain that Mike Kensil is the one who leaked the 11 of 12 balls were 2 pounds to Mortensen after the AFC Championship game. I got me wondering if he was also the one who planted the "Patriots are being investigated on the number of radio frequencies" in Brady's helmet during the 2007 spy gate fiasco.

If I remember correctly......Mort was the one that broke that story, only to be proven false by Mike Reiss.

Thoughts?

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3392047


>>>.Sept. 14, 2007: On ESPN Radio's Mike & Mike show, Mortensen reports the league might not close the book on the controversy and might continue to "review" it. Mortensen suggests that the videotaping of the Sept. 9 game against the Jets could be the tip of the iceberg, and that the Patriots' practices could include jamming the radio frequency in opponents' head-sets, and miking the Pats' defensive linemen to hear the offense's audibles and the cadence between the center and the quarterback. … Mortensen also reports that Belichick has privately told Goodell he has been taping opponents' signals since he became the Pats' head coach in 2000.<<<<<

Patsfanin Philly said:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3392047


>>>.Sept. 14, 2007: On ESPN Radio's Mike & Mike show, Mortensen reports the league might not close the book on the controversy and might continue to "review" it. Mortensen suggests that the videotaping of the Sept. 9 game against the Jets could be the tip of the iceberg, and that the Patriots' practices could include jamming the radio frequency in opponents' head-sets, and miking the Pats' defensive linemen to hear the offense's audibles and the cadence between the center and the quarterback. … Mortensen also reports that Belichick has privately told Goodell he has been taping opponents' signals since he became the Pats' head coach in 2000.<<<<<

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Good find......

But I was referring to the accusation that Brady was found to being using a second radio frequency in his helmet. That nut job from Pittsburgh that wrote the book starts off all his interviews with the second frequency ********.

Being this good, and winning this many superbowls leads some to believe that we have to be cheating.. so Kensil who wanted BB to stay with the NYJets fantasizes about how things might have been.. and has been unleashing a smear campaign ever since the initial brouhaha with Marshal Faulk et al to discredit this team.

Unfortunately the national press just likes to follow along as it increases exposure..

BB is the target, not Brady.. they are trying to get to BB through Kraft and Brady.

Nordberg said:

Good find......

But I was referring to the accusation that Brady was found to being using a second radio frequency in his helmet. That nut job from Pittsburgh that wrote the book starts off all his interviews with the second frequency ********.

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All that second frequency stuff is the product of one unsupported internet rumor and his vivid imagination. That guy completely believes it because he's, as you point out, a nut job.

The rumor stems from a story that Flutie allegedly told about picking up what he thought was his helmet but it turned out to be Brady's backup helmet. He then allegedly heard a coach speaking to Brady after the 15 second cut off.

There are several problems with this rumor that the believers never address:

1 - It's unconfirmed. I believe it was Dan LeBetard who first reported it, but he framed it as he heard it from someone who heard it from someone else. It's third hand information and we don't know who LeBetard heard it from, let alone the original source, if there is one. Also, the story is at least 8 years old. In that time, no one has apparently asked Flutie about this, which is kind of hard to believe. The guy isn't a recluse.

2 - It's almost impossible that that particular helmet was just laying around for someone to pick up. If you go to a game, or when they show shots of the bench area on TV, you'll notice that equipment isn't just laying around, unattended. All the tape, cleats, pads, facemasks, helmets, etc, is stored in trunks and is kept there until needed.

On top of that, the backup "green dot" helmets are kept in a different trunk in the area where the league has their communications setup on the sideline. These helmets can only be accessed with permission by a league employee. The chances of one those helmets getting out of that trunk and then being left on a bench are pretty much zero.

Is it possible that Kensil also got to Grigson before the AFCCG and told him to send that letter for the NFL to look into the footballs?

Patsfanin Philly said:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3392047


>>>.Sept. 14, 2007: On ESPN Radio's Mike & Mike show, Mortensen reports the league might not close the book on the controversy and might continue to "review" it. Mortensen suggests that the videotaping of the Sept. 9 game against the Jets could be the tip of the iceberg, and that the Patriots' practices could include jamming the radio frequency in opponents' head-sets, and miking the Pats' defensive linemen to hear the offense's audibles and the cadence between the center and the quarterback. … Mortensen also reports that Belichick has privately told Goodell he has been taping opponents' signals since he became the Pats' head coach in 2000.<<<<<

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This illustrates one of the other myths about cameragate: No one knew this had been going for Belichick's tenure with the Patriots until Arlen Specter stepped in. I forget if it was during his grandstanding at the SB or during the Walsh interviews, but this was treated as some shocking bombshell. It was there for everyone to see on September 14th, 4 days after Patriots-Jets opener.

This also flys in the face of all the people saying "If Brady just admitted right away, there would have been a small fine, and the story would have gone away." Belichick came clean about everything and apologized right away. That earned him zero sympathy and leniency. There's no chance Brady would have gotten a small fine and everyone would have moved on if he admitted it (especially since he didn't do any anything.)

You know, 2 yrs ago, I would say your a paranoid, conspiracist. But after all the childish, unethical 5h!t I've been reading, I have no problem believing this. As I've said in the past, the MFL is just some biased, bitter ex players (jest), who have an agenda and are power hungry and think they are above the law. Not some holier than tho, all about integrity, fair enterprise. These are sleezballs. It's time for Rome to crumble.

On the "Flutie picked up Brady's backup helmet" story, it simply does not make sense.

Why? Because there are rules on how the helmets are accessible. The NFL laws actually considered the idea of a main signal receiver's helmet breaking and needing a backup, but that the backup helmet should not be where anyone else could get to it. The NFL laws actually also considered the idea of a replacement signal receiver's needing a helmet, but that special helmet should not be where anyone else could get to it or where the backup guy, even, could get to it, unless the main signal receiver leaves the game.

To quote their procedures for the defensive signal-calling helmets, which I presume have the same guidelines:

edit: Koma mentioned this before me, in the last paragraph of his post, that the helmets are secured.

» The primary player will have one "live" helmet on the field and a second "live" helmet stored in a secured trunk or container as a backup in case of a malfunction.

» The backup player will wear his regular helmet on the field and will have a "live" helmet stored in the secured trunk or container in the event of an injury to the primary player.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...alls-new-coachtodefense-communications-system

Palm Beach Pats Fan said:

On the "Flutie picked up Brady's backup helmet" story, it simply does not make sense.

Why? Because there are rules on how the helmets are accessible. The NFL laws actually considered the idea of a main signal receiver's helmet breaking and needing a backup, but that the backup helmet should not be where anyone else could get to it. The NFL laws actually also considered the idea of a replacement signal receiver's needing a helmet, but that special helmet should not be where anyone else could get to it or where the backup guy, even, could get to it, unless the main signal receiver leaves the game.

To quote their procedures for the defensive signal-calling helmets, which I presume have the same guidelines:

edit: Koma mentioned this before me, in the last paragraph of his post, that the helmets are secured.

» The primary player will have one "live" helmet on the field and a second "live" helmet stored in a secured trunk or container as a backup in case of a malfunction.

» The backup player will wear his regular helmet on the field and will have a "live" helmet stored in the secured trunk or container in the event of an injury to the primary player.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...alls-new-coachtodefense-communications-system

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You may have looked for this, too, but I wish I could have found an article about the storage protocols when the offensive helmet radio system was introduced. I can't imagine the league came up with the secured trunk system only after they installed the defensive helmet radio receivers. I've got to believe it was either in place from the beginning or it came along a year or two later.

One other reason the Flutie story doesn't make sense: Pretend for a minute there really was a second frequency. Why would the Patriots leave one of the few pieces of physical evidence of their scheme just laying around for anyone to find? What if it wasn't Flutie, but an official or stadium security person who found it? This would be like the villain in a movie just happening to drop his secret plans where the hero could find them. No one would take that plot point seriously.

Patsfanin Philly said:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3392047


>>>.Sept. 14, 2007: On ESPN Radio's Mike & Mike show, Mortensen reports the league might not close the book on the controversy and might continue to "review" it. Mortensen suggests that the videotaping of the Sept. 9 game against the Jets could be the tip of the iceberg, and that the Patriots' practices could include jamming the radio frequency in opponents' head-sets, and miking the Pats' defensive linemen to hear the offense's audibles and the cadence between the center and the quarterback. … Mortensen also reports that Belichick has privately told Goodell he has been taping opponents' signals since he became the Pats' head coach in 2000.<<<<<

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2696227

Without convening a congressional hearing or hiring an independent counsel to investigate the incident, the NFL has ruled that the Miami Dolphins violated no league rules in the Tapegate affair associated with the team's 21-0 victory over the New England Patriots last Sunday.

The incident spawned considerable attention on Tuesday after some Dolphins players suggested to the Palm Beach (Fla.) Post that the team "purchased" tapes of the New England offense that provided audio of quarterback Tom Brady making audible and line-blocking calls.

Those players strongly hinted that the tapes were critical in preparing for the game and provided the Dolphins inside information about New England's offensive audible system.

"I've never seen [Brady] so flustered," middle linebacker Zach Thomassaid.

The league's response? Pretty much a stifled yawn, since there is no rule prohibiting such film study.

"Reaction around the league office was, 'That's football,' " AFC spokesman Steve Alic said.

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unreal, "you guys have tapes of a division rival QB's audio? Nothing wrong with studying tape."


no investigation into where/how such a tape could come about.