So...What's your gut feeling on the Super Bowl?

We will not give up 30 points without several turnovers. Do you sky is falling people understand that we faced a better defense this past weekend and if not for an overthrow we put up 27 points? You're severely overrating the Giants and severely underrating the Patriots in this game.

PatsSox363804 said:

We will not give up 30 points without several turnovers. Do you sky is falling people understand that we faced a better defense this past weekend and if not for an overthrow we put up 27 points? You're severely overrating the Giants and severely underrating the Patriots in this game.

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The Patriots have been turning the ball over in the playoffs. Patriots put up 23 on a better defense, but the Giants pass rushers are very dynamic and will give the Patriots fits.

The Giants offense is light years better than the Ravens offense and the Ravens put up 20...You think the Patriots won't give up 30 points?

I certainly believe it is possible that the Patriots defense plays that well, but to be confident in that belief, well...somebody is living in lala land.

My "Gut" tells me were going to win in blow out fasion. I remember having this very same feeling when we played the Jets after losing to in a row. But my head has alot of doubts. Hope my feeling is right.

Nunchucks said:

The Patriots have been turning the ball over in the playoffs. Patriots put up 23 on a better defense, but the Giants pass rushers are very dynamic and will give the Patriots fits.

The Giants offense is light years better than the Ravens offense and the Ravens put up 20...You think the Patriots won't give up 30 points?

I certainly believe it is possible that the Patriots defense plays that well, but to be confident in that belief, well...somebody is living in lala land.

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How many times has the defense given up 30 points this year? Oh right, ZERO.

The Giants offense is light years better than the Ravens to the tune of 1 point per game and the Ravens played better defenses throughout the course of the season. The Giants needed an idiot to muff 2 punts to win that game when the week before New Orleans was -4 and still put 32 points on them.

Look this game is 50/50 and these teams are very even but some people arent giving the Patriots a chance and in my opinion it has a lot to do with residual fear from 07.

I'll predict right now that the Patriots get more sacks and QB hits in this game than the Giants do.

PatsSox363804 said:

How many times has the defense given up 30 points this year? Oh right, ZERO.

The Giants offense is light years better than the Ravens to the tune of 1 point per game and the Ravens played better defenses throughout the course of the season. The Giants needed an idiot to muff 2 punts to win that game when the week before New Orleans was -4 and still put 32 points on them.

Look this game is 50/50 and these teams are very even but some people arent giving the Patriots a chance and in my opinion it has a lot to do with residual fear from 07.

I'll predict right now that the Patriots get more sacks and QB hits in this game than the Giants do.

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Regular season stats mean nothing. This is the superbowl. Nicks, Manningham and Bradshaw were all injured throughout the season. Giants are now healthy. Also, the Patriots pass defense is bad, Julien friggin Edlemen is playing CB, that is not good.

PatsSox363804 said:

We will not give up 30 points without several turnovers. Do you sky is falling people understand that we faced a better defense this past weekend and if not for an overthrow we put up 27 points? You're severely overrating the Giants and severely underrating the Patriots in this game.

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And if Evens does not drop the ball the Ravens put up 27 points on the pats as well. It goes both ways. The ravens offense pales in comparison to the Giants so do you really think it is out of the realm of possibility that Giants score 30+ points? Lastly the Pats defense has faced pathetic QB after pathetic QB. While they have only given up 30 point once this season everybody is throwing 400 yards on them.

As for the turnovers. There has been a few the past two games. The Giants will pressure Brady all game and when QB's are pressured they tend to make bad throws. I am not saying Brady will throw 4 Ints but I think he will throw at least one.

I think it is insane that the pats are favored by 3 points. Makes no sense at all.

Don't feel good

This is the first competent offense we've faced since the playoffs started. They're also at full strength, and have been playing pretty solid football.

I have faith that the Pats can win, but I really hope the Giants don't expose the defense to be the same bunch of guys who got torched all season long, and have feasted on Tim Tebow and Joe Flacco the last few weeks.

ensoul said:

I think it is insane that the pats are favored by 3 points. Makes no sense at all.

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Home team gets an automatic 3 points. I don't know if that holds true in the SB. But that would explain why they're favorites.

I fell actually pretty confident for this one, much better than the AFCCG.

As in the last two rounds, the weaker of two possible oppenents won, sparing us the tougher matchup.

I expect a game like the 04 SB or the 07 AFCCG, a tightish game but one where the Pats will never relinquish the lead in the 4th quarter.

Tunescribe said:

I agree with this; I wish I could be more positive. My general thinking is that the Giants' dominant defensive line will slow down Brady just enough and that Manning will give our secondary fits. I thought we'd beat the Giants at Gillette this year because they were missing some key people, and look what happened. Maybe BB and his coaches have something brilliant up their sleeve. Maybe the breaks will fall our way. I just don't see how the Patriots can be favored.

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This is where i think the no-huddle can be invaluable. The last 2 times we've played them the giants d wore out by the fourth quarter and we DIDN'T go no huddle in either of those games. Going no-huddle could really wear them out.

I think we're going to lose. Why? Because the fix is in.

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LMAO!

The Giants just match up perfectly with the Pats. They can get a pass rush without blitzing and their WRs are very difficult to cover. This might be the best offensive team we face all season. We are going to need a BIG game from Brady to win this one.

My gut feeling is that we lose a shootout. Possibly even blow a 4th Quarter lead.

ensoul said:

I think it is insane that the pats are favored by 3 points. Makes no sense at all.

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Funny thing is if Asante makes the easy catch Pats are heavy favorites, by at least 7+. I think it is insane that a former player who is sitting at home has such an influence on what people think of our chances in the next game.

The only logic that has NYG so 'sexy' is beating us in 07 and GB, but nobody cares they beat GB if we caught that INT 4 years ago, even with the loss 12 weeks ago

My gut feeling tells me that by the end of this game, one team will stand holding the Lombardi, and the other will not. We'll find out soon.

deroc5050 said:

I will give Eli credit for getting the **** kicked out of him last game and not turning the ball over. GB win was an impressive win but I would much rather play the NYG than the GB packers in the SB.. I just think GB did what we did last year.. got a first round bye maybe a little over confident and made mistakes.

My gut feeling tells me we are going to win.. but I think its going to be a very interesting and well played game. I think the Giants secondary will get beat against are TE's.. I just hope are O line holds up for TFB.

Eli I would think he is going to be putting up some points against our secondary.. If we lose the turn over battle in this game I don't see us winning. But the Giants are due for a bad game hopefully its the SB.

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The Giants should have suffered 3 INTs and a lost fumble. Eli was extremely lucky when 2 49er DBs knocked each other off easy INTs, not once but twice. On another occasion, a 49er simply dropped an INT directly into him. And of course, there was the quick whistle that overruled a Giants fumble on their own 24 yard line.

The Giants could have been blown out by 25 points, in regulation, by the 49ers.

It all comes down to the ability to contain the Giants four man rush. If they are getting into the backfield like they did in '07 and in Week 9, we're in trouble. If the O-Line can contain them and force Fewell to send extra rushers in zone blitz packages, Brady can pick them apart (assuming he plays better than he did against Baltimore). I don't have a gut feeling on this game one way or another yet. But I'll let you know in another week.

ensoul said:

And if Evens does not drop the ball the Ravens put up 27 points on the pats as well. It goes both ways. The ravens offense pales in comparison to the Giants so do you really think it is out of the realm of possibility that Giants score 30+ points? Lastly the Pats defense has faced pathetic QB after pathetic QB. While they have only given up 30 point once this season everybody is throwing 400 yards on them.

As for the turnovers. There has been a few the past two games. The Giants will pressure Brady all game and when QB's are pressured they tend to make bad throws. I am not saying Brady will throw 4 Ints but I think he will throw at least one.

I think it is insane that the pats are favored by 3 points. Makes no sense at all.

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There seems to be the perception that the Giants are this and the Giants are that, but is there a reality behind those talking points we've so much of already this week?

Didn't we just go through pretty much the same exact arguments (Pats haven't seen a defense like this, Pats played an 'easy' schedule, etc.) last week with the Ravens? Who won that game again?

As for yards allowed, I thought for sure that had been proven to be a meaningless stat by now, but apparently not. By the way, that vaunted, incredibly unstoppable Giants defense ranked 27th in yards allowed, so you either have think that metric stinks or that that metric stinks; you can't have it both ways.

Why don't you make the same comments about the Pats defense that you do about the Giants defense? The reality is that the Pats forced more turnovers than the Giants did.

I agree that the game could easily go either way. I don't agree with those that seem to feel that the Giants have some huge advantage. The Patriots scored more points than the Giants did, allowed fewer points than the Giants did, forced more turnovers than the Giants did, lost the ball on turnovers fewer times than the Giants did, and won four more games than the Giants did.

Yet the Giants should be favored?

I don't doubt that the Giants will have a couple sacks. I don't doubt that the Pats will turn the ball over at least once. But how about giving the Pats offensive line some credit; they're going to win their share of battles. Why the assumption the Giants will "will pressure Brady all game long"? Why the assumption they'll suddenly go from all-pros to playing no better than the Rams o-line did this year? I am doubting the superficial perceptions that the Giants are an unstoppable juggernaut that cannot possibly be defeated, or that the Patriots are this horrible team that doesn't stand a chance. If you're going to give the Giants credit for the things they are doing well then at least do the same with the Patriots.

I'm still a ways away from making an intelligent (loose term ) pick on a winner but despite the G-men getting hot, I keep coming back to 4 things.

1. The Giants had a 9-7 regular season and allowed more points than they scored. The mediots say that this is a different team than the one that played in the regular season. How so? They weaseled into the playoffs by beating a mail-it-in Jets team and a Cowboys team w/ Romo playing with a hand the size of Fatbastard's. In the playoffs, ATL always blows it, GB was flat and SF's offense stinks. I see a team on a streak that eventually will play- maybe not the whole game but play like a 9-7 team usually does: Inconsistient.

2. I don't see Brady playing three straight sub-standard games vs the Giants.

3. I don't see a Belichick -coached team losing to the same team twice consecutively in the same year. I'd have to go look but I don't think it's happened since 2006 vs the Colts.

4. I don't see BB & Brady losing two straight Super Bowl games.

Not much analysis here but everytime I hear something about the Giants that makes me concerned about the game, I keep coming back to my thoughts above.

AzPatsFan said:

The Giants should have suffered 3 INTs and a lost fumble. Eli was extremely lucky when 2 49er DBs knocked each other off easy INTs, not once but twice. On another occasion, a 49er simply dropped an INT directly into him. And of course, there was the quick whistle that overruled a Giants fumble on their own 24 yard line.

The Giants could have been blown out by 25 points, in regulation, by the 49ers.

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And the Packers uncharacteristically dropped *8* passes against the Giants. Even without those drops, they racked up, what, 388 yards?

Good offenses can move the ball against this Giants defense. You just have to avoid the big negative plays like sacks and turnovers.

If Pats offense is more on track than against the Ravens and defense can hold the Giants scoreless on ~ 60 percent of possessions (Giants score on something like five drives), Pats win the game...

....heck, if defense just gets a few turnovers, I don't care how many yards they give up....

Brady definitely has to have a better game then in the AFCCG, but he WILL do that...

Oh, and 1 last item...MCCOURT NEEDS TO HAVE AN AIRTIGHT GAME FOR ONCE THIS ENTIRE SEASON!!!!!

My gut feeling is the Patriots win!!!!! 31-23