Alan Millstein: Brady's chances of en banc hearing dramatically improved with latest amicus filings

[RayClay]

Yes, but when the time comes to support the NFLPA in a lengthy strike to correct the arbitration process, 90% of those who are "outraged" at Goodell's behavior will complain about the "greedy" players.

I don't think the NFL could survive a lengthy strike, to tell you the truth. I grew up following the AFL, not the NFL. The reasons and funding available for a new league were a pittance then compared to now. If Kraft, a few others and some billionaire's dying to own a pro football team started a new league and started poaching underpaid and poorly treated NFL players, they could very well be successful.

 

[aluminum seats]

You think he should just show up for the four games and dare Goodell to have police drag him off?

I think the point of this is to do what is in the best interest of Brady, Belichick and the team.

Brady's a football player, he's not a lawyer or Mahatma Ghandi.

You'd rather spend another couple of years fighting the corrupt system while having your hall of famer subject to stress unrelated to football every day? He is human.

He's going to fight this for as long as he can. That's what he wants to do, and that's what 99% of this board wants him to do.

 

[RayClay]

He's going to fight this for as long as he can. That's what he wants to do

Didn't realize you knew him personally. I thought he was interested in football, not endless losing court battles. It's a union case anyway, let them fight it.

I watch football to get away from endless lawyer language documents and such.\

What do you think Brady's prospects, as opposed to the NFLPA's, are?

 

[aluminum seats]

Didn't realize you knew him personally.

You'd have to be pretty dense not to know at least that much about Brady by now.

 

[Gumby]

Didn't realize you knew him personally. I thought he was interested in football, not endless losing court battles. It's a union case anyway, let them fight it.

I watch football to get away from endless lawyer language documents and such.\

What do you think Brady's prospects, as opposed to the NFLPA's, are?

I think regardless of what you think his chances of winning in court are, his chances of getting enough stays to drag this out for long enough for him to start thinking about retirement (2seasons) are pretty good. And through this season w/ playoffs is almost a certainty.

As long as he can let the lawyers worry about the lawyer stuff, i think you are being a drama queen about the personal stress thing. He has a couple hundred mil in the bank and a supermodel wife and is being asked to pal around w NBA mlb superstars in his free time; wish i had that kind of stress.

He wants to clear his name and stop the madness for rest of nflpa--DO WHAT IS RIGHT, despite the odds! . If you were the lone rangers sidekick, no one would even know about the guy . [because LR would have quit before he tried anything.]

 

[XLIX]

You think he should just show up for the four games and dare Goodell to have police drag him off?

I think the point of this is to do what is in the best interest of Brady, Belichick and the team.

Brady's a football player, he's not a lawyer or Mahatma Ghandi.

You'd rather spend another couple of years fighting the corrupt system while having your hall of famer subject to stress unrelated to football every day? He is human.

Do you really think his performance has been impacted by the "stress" of this situation? Gimme a break.

 

[XLIX]

I don't think the NFL could survive a lengthy strike, to tell you the truth. I grew up following the AFL, not the NFL. The reasons and funding available for a new league were a pittance then compared to now. If Kraft, a few others and some billionaire's dying to own a pro football team started a new league and started poaching underpaid and poorly treated NFL players, they could very well be successful.

No they wouldn't. It didn't work for the USFL and it won't work today.

BTW, why in the world would Kraft (or any other owner) do something to destroy the value of their own assets worth about $1 to $2 billion???

 

[ViperGTS]

Do you really think his performance has been impacted by the "stress" of this situation? Gimme a break.

Yeah, I'm sure he's stressing everyday. I doubt it really even bothers him on a day to day basis. He knows what the facts are. He knows he's clear.

League players just voted him the second best player in the league. I think that speaks volumes and if the league had a legit commissioner, that would probably end it.

Then again, now it's a labor issue. It's not a Brady issue. It's out of his hands now. People need to realize this.

 

[RayClay]

Do you really think his performance has been impacted by the "stress" of this situation? Gimme a break.

I think he is a human being. He has handled two years of no breaks from stress incredibly.

 

[XLIX]

I think he is a human being. He has handled two years of no breaks from stress incredibly.

Yes he has. Is there any reason to believe that won't continue to be the case? Simple fact is that if Brady was the type of guy who would crack from the stress, it would have happened in Super Bowl 49. That's when the media glare from deflategate was the highest, combined with the inherent stress of the game itself.

If memory serves, he played pretty well against the Seahawks in the world's biggest annual sporting event, despite all the deflategate "stress". Something tells me he can handle a September game against the Dolphins.

 

[RayClay]

Yeah, I'm sure he's stressing everyday. I doubt it really even bothers him on a day to day basis. He knows what the facts are. He knows he's clear.

League players just voted him the second best player in the league. I think that speaks volumes and if the league had a legit commissioner, that would probably end it.

Then again, now it's a labor issue. It's not a Brady issue. It's out of his hands now. People need to realize this.

If he completely forgets about it and never has to appear in court, that's fine.

Since an en banc hearing and the Supreme court are his only options, one has to assume that, as ridiculous as it is, he will likely lose eventually. Does he get to choose what time in the season he serves it, if that is the case?

I'm not a lawyer, so if any lawyers want to say this can be dragged out forever, or Brady has a good chance of winning, please correct me.

 

[RayClay]

Yes he has. Is there any reason to believe that won't continue to be the case? Simple fact is that if Brady was the type of guy who would crack from the stress,

Actually, since this case there have been reports in 2015 and 16 about marriage problems. I'm not saying they're true, but being able to perform on the football field is not the only type of stress.

 

[Gumby]

I don't think the NFL could survive a lengthy strike, to tell you the truth. I grew up following the AFL, not the NFL. The reasons and funding available for a new league were a pittance then compared to now. If Kraft, a few others and some billionaire's dying to own a pro football team started a new league and started poaching underpaid and poorly treated NFL players, they could very well be successful.

No they wouldn't. It didn't work for the USFL and it won't work today.

BTW, why in the world would Kraft (or any other owner) do something to destroy the value of their own assets worth about $1 to $2 billion???

A strike is not ever going to doom the nyjfl or enable a competitor league.

And anyone saying the players SETTLED the last strike at a loss or that the players are way underpaid is being silly/revisionist. The last strike was all about the % of tv revenue applied to cap. The players made out ok, maybe not great but good enough to proclaim victory.

The problem now is that nobody on nflpa side then cared about the commish authority clause, they were only focused on $.

Id support a strike now. But If they fix that 1 problem (impartial arbiter), i'll return to my position of not caring much about millionaires striking against billionaires.

 

[XLIX]

Actually, since this case there have been reports in 2015 and 16 about marriage problems. I'm not saying they're true, but being able to perform on the football field is not the only type of stress.

With all due respect, now you've just devolved into sheer idiocy.

 

[RayClay]

No they wouldn't. It didn't work for the USFL and it won't work today.

BTW, why in the world would Kraft (or any other owner) do something to destroy the value of their own assets worth about $1 to $2 billion???

Kraft could own a league, why not? He could dissolve the Patriots, start a franchise called the minutemen and sign most of the Patriots players. Then go around the business community offering franchises for bid.

 

[RayClay]

No they wouldn't. It didn't work for the USFL and it won't work today.

BTW, why in the world would Kraft (or any other owner) do something to destroy the value of their own assets worth about $1 to $2 billion???

A league went head to head with the NFL in the fall and all eight of the teams are still in existence.

 

[XLIX]

Kraft could own a league, why not? He could dissolve the Patriots, start a franchise called the minutemen and sign most of the Patriots players. Then go around the business community offering franchises for bid.

LOL!! So let me get this straight:

Bob Kraft has an asset worth about $3.2 billion. But you think he should just "dissolve" that asset for nothing so he can compete with the very league he just quit, a league which happens to be the most powerful entity in North American sports.

Then he should go around and sign Patriots players. Presumably, he would have to pay them the same, so we're talking roughly $150 million per year. Just out of curiosity, where is that revenue going to come from? It's not like this new league has an TV contracts. Yeah, they could probably get a couple million total from Spike TV for ****s and grins I suppose.... a far cry from the (almost) quarter billion per team the NFL brings in.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!! Seriously, what color is the sky on your world? This is a joke, right?

 

[XLIX]

A league went head to head with the NFL in the fall and all eight of the teams are still in existence.

Oh really? What league is that?

 

[JetFan79]

He could dissolve the Patriots, start a franchise called the minutemen and sign most of the Patriots players.

I support this plan.

 

[venecol]

It's too bad that the players couldn't hold it together. They're in a bad position now because of their weakness then.

So much has changed since the last negotiation, the whole concussion fiasco, the over reach of the commissioner, healthy players walking away from the game, the incredible increase in revenues. I think the players are stronger now and when the time comes I hope they stick it to the owners.