Schefter: Has Heard Speculation Colts might have deflated the footballs

[PatsFanSince74]

As far as I know, the only facts that have been publicly acknowledged by the NFL are the following:
The Colts filed a complaint about the air pressure in the balls
Several of the balls were found to have air pressure levels beneath the minimum standard.
The balls were measured at half time as to their air pressure and inflated to the proper range
There is an ongoing investigation which, according to Goodell at his press conference in Phoenix, has not yet even concluded that any infraction occurred.

(If anyone can add anything to or correct any errors in what is immediately above, I would appreciate it. If you do, please cite a source.)

Many other things have been alleged or circulated by the media, citing various and usually vague "sources."
11 of the 12 balls had air pressure 2 psi below the standard
11 of the 12 ball had air pressure a "few ticks" below the standard and one was 2 psi below the standard
The one that was 2 psi below the standard had been in the possession of the Colts equipment staff
The officials used a meter to test the air pressure in the balls before the game
The officials did not use a meter to test the air pressure in the balls before the game
A Patriots lockerroom attendant took the balls into a bathroom that is in the area between the field and the lockerroom.
The attendant was there for 90 seconds
D'Qwell Jackson said he thought a ball he intercepted had low air pressure
D'Qwell Jackson said he never said he thought the ball had low air pressure

 

[BradyManny]

We shall see.

You are putting way too much faith in people that probably don't have a lot going on upstairs. I'd be surprised if any of these guys even read the report in full when it comes out.

 

[Ring 6]

These people were engaging in a blatant smear campaign against the Patriots. It was pure slander, not a lack of sufficient praise.

I guess we see it differently. Rice commented about misinformation he was told.
He said what you would say if you believed such evidence against a different team. This board is full of such things. Is everyone who trashes Ray Lewis a weasel?
Look I'm not defending Rice, I actually find his whole role in this topic very funny, but people are going way overboard in catsigating everyone who has an opinion that isn't pro-Patriot. Those that are maligning the Patriots as cheaters are wrong, but the comments here (such as calling Jerry Rice a weasel) are defensive and silly. Just my opinion, which I'm sure people here will explain how I'm not entitled to.

 

[rochrist]

at this point, anything that gets brought up is only done so to get a riser out of the reader or listener......that's the only real purpose of today's media

look at felger today trying to pick apart the 2013 draft and how even though the pats got the better end of it with collins instead of patterson that somehow that pats screwed up by not getting patterson too.......his point is perfect......if it is only to meant to get a riser from the local listener.

I believe the pats are absolved of any wrongdoing......beyond that, I don't care........having the colts be complicit does the pats no good.......it's not like if the colts lose a draft pick, that they'll gove it to the pats.

Yeah, I heard that. What Felger seems to stupid to understand is that BB wouldn't have taken Patterson if you had a gun to his head.

 

[PATS16N0]

I guess we see it differently. Rice commented about misinformation he was told.
He said what you would say if you believed such evidence against a different team. This board is full of such things. Is everyone who trashes Ray Lewis a weasel?
Look I'm not defending Rice, I actually find his whole role in this topic very funny, but people are going way overboard in catsigating everyone who has an opinion that isn't pro-Patriot. Those that are maligning the Patriots as cheaters are wrong, but the comments here (such as calling Jerry Rice a weasel) are defensive and silly. Just my opinion, which I'm sure people here will explain how I'm not entitled to.

He called the Patriots cheaters because a few footballs were under PSI regulation, as if that hasn't certainly happened a thousand times in NFL history. He used a fake, ratings-driven smear-scandal to call the Patriots cheaters.

Meanwhile, he admits to putting a sticky adhesive on his gloves to help him catch passes.

What exactly does he deserve to be called?

 

[Ring 6]

No. One's opinion is one's opinion.

Hypocrisy is weaselish.

If you can't see Jerry Rice's rank hypocrisy in all this, then you can't be helped.

If you can't see that calling Jerry Rice a weasel over a couple of comments that you are butt hurt about, then you can't be helped.

 

[Ring 6]

You are putting way too much faith in people that probably don't have a lot going on upstairs. I'd be surprised if any of these guys even read the report in full when it comes out.

I was speaking specifically about Cris Carter and I stand by the fact that he will man up when he is wrong.
Others will do what others do. What do you think the posters on this board that want to lynch people who believe the Patriots are guilty would do if they found evidence that Brady and Belichick were hiding in the bathrooom and deflated the balls?

 

[Ring 6]

He called the Patriots cheaters because a few footballs were under PSI regulation, as if that hasn't certainly happened a thousand times in NFL history. He used a fake, ratings-driven smear-scandal to call the Patriots cheaters.

Meanwhile, he admits to putting a sticky adhesive on his gloves to help him catch passes.

What exactly does he deserve to be called?

I am not defending his actions, I actually find them funny.
But to call a guy you know absolutely nothing about a weasel because he made a negative comment about your favorite football team is even funnier to me.

 

[PATS16N0]

I am not defending his actions, I actually find them funny.
But to call a guy you know absolutely nothing about a weasel because he made a negative comment about your favorite football team is even funnier to me.

He's trying to hold on to his legacy and the legacy of his team by smearing teams doing superior things to his own, in a harder era to do it, purely for his own narcissism. Sounds like a weasel to me.

 

[Ring 6]

Maybe Andy Johnson is confusing Mr. Jerry Rice with someone else who tweets 3am Staurday morning apologies for things he repeatedly stated to the national press.

Can be no other real explanation.

Maybe Andy Johnson is not considering a few comments (that are consistent with what hundreds of toher people have said) to be the sum total of who Jerry Rice is.
I'm sure you are a much more accomplished person than Jerry Rice, so you are able to look down on him.
Me, I'm not the greatest ever in my profession, so I lack the arrogance that is apparently required to see your viewpoint. There really can be no other explanation.

 

[Ring 6]

He's trying to hold on to his legacy and the legacy of his team by smearing teams doing superior things to his own, in a harder era to do it, purely for his own narcissism. Sounds like a weasel to me.

come on. You act like Rice is taking out full page ads and touring the talk show circuit on a vendetta about the Patriots. He made a couple of dumb comments. I've done that before, haven't you?

 

[PATS16N0]

Maybe Andy Johnson is not considering a few comments (that are consistent with what hundreds of toher people have said) to be the sum total of who Jerry Rice is.
I'm sure you are a much more accomplished person than Jerry Rice, so you are able to look down on him.
Me, I'm not the greatest ever in my profession, so I lack the arrogance that is apparently required to see your viewpoint. There really can be no other explanation.

He's not a football player anymore. He's a social media celebrity. He might as well be on reality television.

 

[Ring 6]

He's not a football player anymore. He's a social media celebrity. He might as well be on reality television.

Huh?
He is a HOF player who gets asked his opinion because he is a HOF player.
He uses Twitter once in a while.

Let me ask you this:

If 11 of 12 balls were under by 2 psi, and the Colts balls were exactly dead on, do you think those saying the Patriots cheated are crazy?

 

[Username]

Speaking of weasels....

http://www.wthr.com/story/28071580/kravitz-a-sort-of-mea-culpa-on-deflategate?

 

[PATS16N0]

Huh?
He is a HOF player who gets asked his opinion because he is a HOF player.
He uses Twitter once in a while.

Let me ask you this:

If 11 of 12 balls were under by 2 psi, and the Colts balls were exactly dead on, do you think those saying the Patriots cheated are crazy?

So you agree with Jerry Rice, twitter sensation, that the Patriots deserve an asterisk?
Are you really this eager to double down on your defense of Jerry Rice that you're going to go this far?

 

[Bruins29]

If 11 of 12 balls were under by 2 psi, and the Colts balls were exactly dead on, do you think those saying the Patriots cheated are crazy?

I wouldn't at all. However if Troy Brown publicly called out another team for cheating, and then admitted he cheated too I think the Pats would get hammered a lot harder along with him.

 

[PATS16N0]

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

I am not defending his actions, I actually find them funny.
But to call a guy you know absolutely nothing about a weasel because he made a negative comment about your favorite football team is even funnier to me.

He's not calling him a weasel because he made a negative comment. You're completely downplaying what he said as some generic negative comment. If I say AndyJohnson is a deadbeat dad it's a negative comment. If I say I don't like the posts AndyJohnson makes here it's a negative comment. But one is my opinion, the other is stating something to be true that I don't know to be true.

It's pretty universal that making making negative statements about people as though they are facts is looked down upon much more than making negative opinions. Unless humankind changed significantly in the last few weeks I would say he's on solid ground calling him a weasel for behavior that's fairly universally accepted as weaselish. If you want to create your own standards of what's considered acceptable behavior in society feel free, but don't be surprised that nobody understands why suddenly being a hypocrite, and judging without evidence is considered normal behavior. It's not, and accept in rare cases like yourself it never will be.

Add in that he cheated by the same definition he accuses other's of and it doubles down on why people think he's a douche, or *******, or weasel or whatever word people commonly apply to those that exhibit such behaviors.

 

[Ring 6]

So you agree with Jerry Rice, twitter sensation, that the Patriots deserve an asterisk?
Are you really this eager to double down on your defense of Jerry Rice that you're going to go this far?

You know thats not what I said.
I asked a question that you didn't seem to want to answer.

 

[PATS16N0]

You know thats not what I said.
I asked a question that you didn't seem to want to answer.

If you can find proof that Tom Brady crawled through an air duct, rappelled down from the ceiling in night vision goggles, and let air out of footballs that the officials had already cleared for play, before throwing a smoke bomb at his feet and disappearing into the locker room, than yes, sure, I'll say the Pats get an asterisk.

Until then, Jerry Rice is a weasel.