Deflate-Gate: Here We Go Again

[flasox27]

Except it doesn't explain why the Colts footballs measured up just fine.

What if they were overinflated and dropped down into the low end of the acceptable range.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Glazer is pretty accurate too.

And what Glazer reports is another reason Kraft shouldn't have played kissyface in 2007 and beyond. It gets him nothing anyways.

 

[Joey007]

All this "advantage to grip better in cold & rain" when using under-inflated balls.

Well, IF the Colts already was suspicious in the REGULAR game against the Patriots, how can it be an advantage? It was IN A DOME.

So, I think the "advantage thing" is BS.

My guess is that Brady wanted footballs to be a bit under-inflated. As all QBs have preferences.
Somehow, they may have switched the balls? or something like that.

Bottom line is that they intentionally broken the NFL rule. That is the issue, NOT a competitive advantage baloney.

IMO.

I could accept it and live with it if the NFL makes a statement such as that. That yes, the Patriots violated a rule, BUT there was no competitive advantage involved in what they did. Go ahead, fine us. Take away a late draft pick if you have to. Just call it good from that standpoint.

 

[JMC00]

https://twitter.com/nflonfox/status/558042108506820610

Jay Glazer.. Not looking good.. Says some in the league down there are tired of this crap from pats

What an absolute crock of **** he is saying. Teams are mad because the book gets thrown at them but not the Pats? What was the last thing the Pats did that has them in trouble with the league? The camera thing. 7 frigging years ago. They pretty much got the book thrown at them for that one.

Then he brings up the jests tampering thing. They did it because Woody Johnson tampered. If Belichick or Kraft did what Johnson did they would have gotten in trouble in a second.

 

[NJPatsfan26]

What an absolute crock of **** he is saying. Teams are mad because the book gets thrown at them but not the Pats? What was the last thing the Pats did that has them in trouble with the league? The camera thing. 7 frigging years ago.

Then he brings up the jests tampering thing. They did it because Woody Johnson tampered. If Belichick or Kraft did what Johnson did they would have gotten in trouble in a second.

not the jets

not GODells team

Not them

 

[pheenix11]

Jay Glazer is full of ****

 

[Love The Drake]

And pasta he is more tha likely filled with pasta as well.

 

[libra957]

Ouch this isn't gonna end well, apparently the NFL have been planning this for a while, way before the AFC Championship.Not looking good.

 

[Todd Bradley]

Wow, Belichick and the Pats sound done.

How so? The report didn't add anything new to the story.

Ravens were mad, had some sort of hunch, probably tipped off Pagano, who then tipped off the league, and the league wanted to check the ball pressure at halftime.

If the Pats fiddled with the balls (wow I can't believe I even have use that in a sentence...) after being approved by the refs, then yes, they are in deep, deep trouble and I can't defend them anymore

But if they did nothing wrong, and it was temperature based, then you can't pin them with anything.

Sour grapes. Sad part is, the AFC isn't getting any better next year and the league will be seeing the Pats in the same position once again: winning.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

I could accept it and live with it if the NFL makes a statement such as that. That yes, the Patriots violated a rule, BUT there was no competitive advantage involved in what they did. Go ahead, fine us. Take away a late draft pick if you have to. Just call it good from that standpoint.

I expect this is going to be a replay of Cameragate. The league will say (both because it's truthful and because they have no choice but to say it even if it wasn't, especially with a Superbowl team involved) that the balls had no competitive effect, but that NE broke a rule and will need to be made an example of. And since this is the second time around, the penalties will be worse. I expect loss of the first-round pick and BB being suspended for some/all of 2015.

 

[Grizzafted]

I think Belichick is going to be watching the NFL from home next year. Mark it down.

 

[JMC00]

Jay Glazer is full of ****

Especially when a few other people at the senior bowl was saying the coaches down there think the whole thing is overblown.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

So this is simultaneously no big deal and the worstest thing ever?

 

[PatriotSpy]

I need to come in here to vent. I've been hearing it from coworkers all week.

Why is this falling on the Patriots to make sure the balls are legit? Why can't the NFL hire a ball boy or ball girl to handle the balls for both teams? It can't possibly be too hard and it can't possibly be that big of a deal if the refs inspect the balls and give it back to the teams. Roger and the NFL can go eff themselves.

 

[Joey007]

I still find it funny how the only article on NFL.com discussing the deflate-gate is the one about Browner's tweet. Interesting..

 

[Fansince77]

You guys are screwed lol.

You against getting screwed? Ahh, you live in momma basement huh?

 

[Danger Zone]

Except it doesn't explain why the Colts footballs measured up just fine.

No it doesnt.

But some first grade math gets us there.

There is a window of variance allowed by the NFL in what it deems acceptable, 12.5 psi to 13.5 psi.

That is an allowable variance of 1 psi.

The Patriots footballs all came in at 11 psi.

This means that they were under-inflated by a total of 1.5 psi.

The Patriots could have submitted footballs in the 12.5 range and the Colts in the 13.5 range.

They both could have lost the exact same amount of psi due to cooling effects and ended up with one set of footballs being under-inflated and the other set still being within reasonable legal bounds.

This difference is extremely exaggerated once you start calculating in what the temperature of the air was that each teams used to inflate their balls.

One team using outdoor air and the other using indoor air = huge difference in lost psi over the course of the next hour or so.

One team using 70 degree indoor and air and the other using warmer 82 degree and you've still got a huge difference in psi.

None of these factors is unrealistic.

Each of them accounts for the leaked (and as yet unofficial) findings.

Two factors taken together (Colts submitted higher allowed psi footballs and used cooler air than the Patriots in inflating their footballs) and there is no cheating.. what so ever.

 

[Big-T]

I still find it funny how the only article on NFL.com discussing the deflate-gate is the one about Browner's tweet. Interesting..

Because they were done with it when Rapsheet and Blandino said 1 ball was taken out of circulation.

Who are you going to trust here...the guy who runs the refs and a guy who works for NFL media or a bunch of hacks?

 

[102 Pat]

I hope the league makes an announcement tomorrow, getting tired of this crap...

 

[flasox27]

And what Glazer reports is another reason Kraft shouldn't have played kissyface in 2007 and beyond. It gets him nothing anyways.

Absolutely correct sir. He should have complained when Goodell leaked the confidential tape to Glazer and when the tapes were destroyed without an explanation of what was on the tapes. He has given the POS carte blanche to eviscerate BB and the Pats over nothing again. As I said I hope I am wrong but I have seen both Goodell and Kraft in action before and I have no reason to think there will anything different this time.