2015 NFL Mock Drafts

[dliverey]

Mayo,

I went with Dawson because I don't think that Mayo (Not you the other one) is in the long term plan and I didn't keep Casillas. I think that Mayo is cut or traded after next season and I would like to see Dawson as a reserve this year while he learns the system. I think that LB is a need because in a few years when HT, Collins and Jones are in need of new contracts some tough choices will be made. Hopefully at that time Dawson will be on the level of either of those LB's. We saw the impact that HT and Collins have made this year and I think that Dawson is in a similar mold.

This draft should be about preparing for the future and given the impact the LB's have given us I would like to keep that young talent going. I do not like any of the power DT's in the late 2nd. I know that CBS lists Phillips at 64, but I am confident that he will go before that. I don't like Carl Davis at all, he just seems ultra slow to me and I have seen him get pushed around (he does not seem to use leverage at all).

Given that we play alot of sub packages I think that a bigger DE/DT fits better than a power DT, especially keeping Siliga. I am envisioning a front 4 of Chandler-Easley-Hardison-Ayers. That actually makes my mouth water a little.

I really like Casillas but do not think that he is as big a playmaker that Dawson will be and I am looking for future play makers.

 

[mayoclinic]

Mayo,

I went with Dawson because I don't think that Mayo (Not you the other one) is in the long term plan and I didn't keep Casillas. I think that Mayo is cut or traded after next season and I would like to see Dawson as a reserve this year while he learns the system. I think that LB is a need because in a few years when HT, Collins and Jones are in need of new contracts some tough choices will be made. Hopefully at that time Dawson will be on the level of either of those LB's. We saw the impact that HT and Collins have made this year and I think that Dawson is in a similar mold.

This draft should be about preparing for the future and given the impact the LB's have given us I would like to keep that young talent going. I do not like any of the power DT's in the late 2nd. I know that CBS lists Phillips at 64, but I am confident that he will go before that. I don't like Carl Davis at all, he just seems ultra slow to me and I have seen him get pushed around (he does not seem to use leverage at all).

Given that we play alot of sub packages I think that a bigger DE/DT fits better than a power DT, especially keeping Siliga. I am envisioning a front 4 of Chandler-Easley-Hardison-Ayers. That actually makes my mouth water a little.

I really like Casillas but do not think that he is as big a playmaker that Dawson will be and I am looking for future play makers.

Very solid reasoning, given your assumptions. My personal take:

1. There's no doubt that Dawson is a long-term upgrade over Casillas as an off-LOS LB. If you see Mayo's future as short-term, then I can understand the investment. Personally, I'd hope we can find a way to keep Mayo with a cut, and not have to spend a high draft pick on an off-LOS LB, but I can certainly understand your rationale.

2. I agree with you that managing the long-term contracts of Jones, Hightower and Collins will be one of the greatest long term challenges for this team. I'd hate to lose any of them. My personal order of priority is Collins > Jones > Hightower, but they're all so good and so valuable that it's hard to prioritize them at all. I agree that Mayo's contract will need to be out of the way to make room for those 3.

3. I agree that I don't like the DTs outside of the top 40 picks, which is why most of my mocks currently have us taking a DT with our 1st round pick, and possibly trading up. Using your "this draft should be about preparing for the future" logic, I think having a successor in place for Wilfork is huge priority. Keep our defense intact and upgrade the DL with an edge player and a DT, and we're a top 2 defense. Wilfork, Nink and Branch are the only guys over 30, with Mayo and Casillas the only other guys over 26. I think that Eddie Goldman, Jordan Phillips and Malcolm Brown are all 1st round talents well worth taking. I agree about Carl Davis. Jarren Reed could possibly declare, and might warrant consideration, but I haven't fully evaluated him.

4. I think that if "the sub is the new base", then a DT who can both stop the run (and balance out Easley's relative lack of side) and push the pocket and get some penetration would be a huge asset. Goldman, Brown and Phillips are the 3 guys I can see doing this. I can understand the appeal of someone like Marcus Harrison (or Arik Amstead, or Mario Edwards) inside in passing situations, but I'm not sure that a Hardison-Easley combo would be stout enough against the run in situations where we are playing predominantly sub. Also, Manx notes that Hardison has played almost exclusively as an edge player despite his size. I'm not sure he has the combat skills to excel inside.

I guess at this point I'd rather keep Mayo with a reduced contract, re-sign Casillas, and put off addressing an off-LOS LB for another year or 2. But your argument makes a fair amount of sense.

 

[dliverey]

I thought about trading up for one of the big DT's, but I really would like to see Maxx Williams on this team. I think that Gronks role (I think Williams could fill it) is slightly more important than big Vince. If we do trade up for a DT then I would like to see us get Heuerman.
What order do you have the 4 DT's? I think that Shelton and Phillips would replace Vince best Goldman and Brown are better penetrators. To be honest I like Siliga better than Goldman and Brown, I know very unpopular opinion.

 

[manxman2601]

I thought about trading up for one of the big DT's, but I really would like to see Maxx Williams on this team. I think that Gronks role (I think Williams could fill it) is slightly more important than big Vince. If we do trade up for a DT then I would like to see us get Heuerman.
What order do you have the 4 DT's? I think that Shelton and Phillips would replace Vince best Goldman and Brown are better penetrators. To be honest I like Siliga better than Goldman and Brown, I know very unpopular opinion.

Personally I'm fine with Branch-Siliga-Wilfork-Easley as a four man DT rotation with a bigger DE that can shift inside taking Chris Jones' spot on the roster (i.e. Hardison, Odighizuwa). I think the amount of interior D Line rotation lessens the need for a first round DT somewhat. Obviously, if Branch isn't re-signed and Wilfork is let go then things change. Have you seen anything of Terry Williams from ECU? If not, he's worth a look although there may well be character red flags that might affect how draft able he is.

 

[mayoclinic]

I thought about trading up for one of the big DT's, but I really would like to see Maxx Williams on this team. I think that Gronks role (I think Williams could fill it) is slightly more important than big Vince. If we do trade up for a DT then I would like to see us get Heuerman.
What order do you have the 4 DT's? I think that Shelton and Phillips would replace Vince best Goldman and Brown are better penetrators. To be honest I like Siliga better than Goldman and Brown, I know very unpopular opinion.

Right now I have Goldman > Phillips > Brown, but it's very close. It's kind of like preferring Hightower vs. Collins at LB. Both are great. All 3 are athletic enough to penetrate and disrupt and stout enough to clog the middle, though they are different. I obviously don't agree with you on liking Siliga better (and I like Siliga).

 

[dliverey]

What is it about Goldman that you like? When I have watched him I see a big man that wants to be a quick DE. When I have seem him he tries to use pass rushing moves to penetrate and runs himself out of the play. I appreciate that we disagree it stimulates better conversation.

I like Phillips bull rushes and sheds the block to make a play. I have seen 1 highlight on youtube about Terry Williams. It's hard for me to judge based on 3 min video. I do like shorter big DT's because they can under the OL and utilize a more effective bull rush.

I do like Shelton, but I think that he will out of range to trade up for. I am not a pro at this and have been wrong tons, so if I disagree with someone please do not think I am disregarding your opinion. I just like to talk it out and get a different perspective.

 

[mayoclinic]

What is it about Goldman that you like? When I have watched him I see a big man that wants to be a quick DE. When I have seem him he tries to use pass rushing moves to penetrate and runs himself out of the play. I appreciate that we disagree it stimulates better conversation.

I like Phillips bull rushes and sheds the block to make a play. I have seen 1 highlight on youtube about Terry Williams. It's hard for me to judge based on 3 min video. I do like shorter big DT's because they can under the OL and utilize a more effective bull rush.

I do like Shelton, but I think that he will out of range to trade up for. I am not a pro at this and have been wrong tons, so if I disagree with someone please do not think I am disregarding your opinion. I just like to talk it out and get a different perspective.

God knows my views aren't dispositive, so disregard all you want.

I'm not particularly high on Danny Shelton, and think he's ranked a bit high right now. But I hope he stays as the #2 DT after Leonard Williams and pushes the other guys down a bit.

What I like about Eddie Goldman is that he's very athletic and has the speed to chase down guys and the quickness to disrupt, but he's also very, very strong. Reminds me a little bit of Suh in some ways. Brown is a bit more of a pure bull rusher, and again, very strong at the point of attack. I think either guy would fit as a DT who can play NT. Phillips, on the other hand, is an NT who can play DT because he is so athletic for his size. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he rises quite a bit.

My views are pretty much in line with those of Rob Staton from Seahawksdraftblog:

http://seahawksdraftblog.com/malcom-brown-eddie-goldman-should-be-first-rounders
http://seahawksdraftblog.com/danny-shelton-could-be-2015s-most-overrated-prospect
http://seahawksdraftblog.com/further-thoughts-on-jordan-phillips-maxx-williams

 

[dliverey]

Speaking of Suh. I love him...serious man crush. I am a Nebraska fan and would be so pumped if we could find a way to get him on the team. I know its a pipe dream though.

If Goldman is Suh like then I may have to watch him more. I have had a hard time finding videos of Goldman, so I have been pulling up Edwards videos to see Goldman.

 

[mayoclinic]

Speaking of Suh. I love him...serious man crush. I am a Nebraska fan and would be so pumped if we could find a way to get him on the team. I know its a pipe dream though.

If Goldman is Suh like then I may have to watch him more. I have had a hard time finding videos of Goldman, so I have been pulling up Edwards videos to see Goldman.

If you pull up videos from 2013, remember that Goldman played DE last year, when Timmy Jernigan was inside. So when you "see a big man who wants to be a DE", you may be watching film of him when the FSU coaching staff asked him to try to be a DE.

 

[ATippett56]

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2015 New England Patriots Preliminary Mock Draft - 1/10/15

1st Round - Cameron Irving, OC/OG - Florida State (37)
2nd Round - Owamagbe Odighizuwa, DE - UCLA (62)
3rd Round - Laken Tomlinson, OG - Duke (93)
3rd Round Compensatory - Xavier Cooper, DT - Washington State (119)
4th Round - David Cobb, RB - Minnesota (116) or Jeremy Langford, RB - Michigan State (118)
4th Round - Jeff Heuerman, TE - Ohio State (133)
6th Round - Marcus Murphy, RB - Missouri (207)
7th Round - Ben Beckwith, OG - Mississippi State (243)

2015 Top NFL Draft Prospects Rankings (updated 1/7/2015) by NFLDraftScout.com

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/all

Priority UDFAs
Taylor Kelly, QB - Arizona State
Mark Weisman, FB - Iowa
Corey Grant, RB - Auburn
Dillon Day, OC - Mississippi State
Kaleb Johnson, OG - Rutgers
Tayo Fabuluje, OT - Texas Christian
Sam Arneson, TE - Wisconsin
Cam Worthy, WR - East Carolina
Matt Miller, WR - Boise State
Andre Davis, WR - South Florida
Jarrod West, WR - Syracuse
Cory Morrissey, DE - Iowa State
Marcus Hardison, DT - Arizona State
Taiwan Jones, ILB - Michigan State
Maurice Falls, OLB - East Carolina
Justin Cox, FS - Mississippi State
Ronald Martin, SS - LSU
Garry Peters, CB - Clemson
Joe Cardona, LS - Navy

 

[Brady6]

#32 – Cameron Erving, OL
#64 – Jordan Phillips, DL
#96 – Max Valles, DL/LB
#98 – Stefon Diggs, WR
#101 – Robert Myers, OL
#132 – David Johnson, RB
#177 – Nick Boyle, TE
#217 – Jake Ryan, LB

I am estimating where we will be picking in the draft based on prior years.

 

[Gabriel_p94]

After watching this game I think a few things become clear.

Although the guards had a tough time on the beginning, they really picked up their play later I'm the game. But nonetheless, we need am upgrade. Hopefully Scherff somehow drops to us or he slips far enough for a slight trade up. I think he would be best suited as a guard, so he fill up a spot there. If not then we could take cam Erving( hopefully he won't rise to much, maybe he can be had by a team who wants to trade up for a qb or something).

Then with the second pick I'm thinking running back. We depended too much on Brady and abandoned the run( granted the ravens run defense is very good). But we need a back. I was thinking Todd gurley or tevin Coleman. I think both backs give Brady someone to rely on.

I haven't really decided who to take with the third pick. Maybe max valles, Dorial green-beckam, maybe even another guard.

What you guys think??

 

[mayoclinic]

After watching this game I think a few things become clear.

Although the guards had a tough time on the beginning, they really picked up their play later I'm the game. But nonetheless, we need am upgrade. Hopefully Scherff somehow drops to us or he slips far enough for a slight trade up. I think he would be best suited as a guard, so he fill up a spot there. If not then we could take cam Erving( hopefully he won't rise to much, maybe he can be had by a team who wants to trade up for a qb or something).

Then with the second pick I'm thinking running back. We depended too much on Brady and abandoned the run( granted the ravens run defense is very good). But we need a back. I was thinking Todd gurley or tevin Coleman. I think both backs give Brady someone to rely on.

I haven't really decided who to take with the third pick. Maybe max valles, Dorial green-beckam, maybe even another guard.

What you guys think??

I'm still leaning towards DT in the 1st if one of Eddie Goldman/Jordan Phillips/Malcolm Brown is within reach. I love Valles and would love to pick him up in the 2nd, or trade up for him in the early 3rd. I want a couple of offensive linemen in the draft, but I don't think we have to spend our 1st round pick on one. I really like some guys who should be available in the 2nd or 3rd round - Jeremiah Poutasi and Jake Fisher come to mind. Maybe Donovan Smith or Jarvis Harrison. I think Poutasi could be as good or better than Scherff down the road. He has better feet, and I think he'd be a better pulling guard.

So I'd go for something like:

1. Goldman/Brown/Phillips (may need a trade up)
2. Valles or Poutasi
3 (probably with a trade up, using our 4th). Poutasi or Valles
3 (comp). Another OL such as Smith, Harrison, or Laken Tomlinson

Then fill out the rest of the draft with some offensive skill players and maybe a DB to pipeline.

 

[dliverey]

After watching this game I think a few things become clear.

Although the guards had a tough time on the beginning, they really picked up their play later I'm the game. But nonetheless, we need am upgrade. Hopefully Scherff somehow drops to us or he slips far enough for a slight trade up. I think he would be best suited as a guard, so he fill up a spot there. If not then we could take cam Erving( hopefully he won't rise to much, maybe he can be had by a team who wants to trade up for a qb or something).

Then with the second pick I'm thinking running back. We depended too much on Brady and abandoned the run( granted the ravens run defense is very good). But we need a back. I was thinking Todd gurley or tevin Coleman. I think both backs give Brady someone to rely on.

I haven't really decided who to take with the third pick. Maybe max valles, Dorial green-beckam, maybe even another guard.

What you guys think??

Not a bad idea but I am hesitant to spend a pick on a player that we will not use (a RB). I am being facetious, but I am finding this incredibly frustrating. When a Defense knows that there is not a threat of a run and the DL can pin their ears back it is going to be difficult for the OL. There needs to be a change in offensive philosophy.

Back to your question I like the idea of a OL in the first and then a RB in the 2nd, one that catches well.

 

[mayoclinic]

#32 – Cameron Erving, OL
#64 – Jordan Phillips, DL
#96 – Max Valles, DL/LB
#98 – Stefon Diggs, WR
#101 – Robert Myers, OL
#132 – David Johnson, RB
#177 – Nick Boyle, TE
#217 – Jake Ryan, LB

I am estimating where we will be picking in the draft based on prior years.

Love the first 3 picks plus Myers. Doubt Phillips will be available at 64 and not sure Valles will last that long either, but love them.

 

[BobDigital]

A new mock cause it is a new week with risers and fallers. I am going to do this mock with players I have not used that often and go a bit different than usual and get really creative. Also with the recent Chung contract it seems unlikely we take a safety high as they seem happy with him. Also I think after this playoff game Amendola has saved his job though he will come back for a reduced rate making WR less of a need position. Pats will give Dobson 1 more off season to prove it before moving on.

#1 - Trade Down (a a 2nd and a 4th) - I am not for trading down but to mix things up this is required and it will make sense once seeing the rest of the mock

#40 - Josie Mathias - OG - Need an impact OL and this one fits.

-TRADE up- using your 2nd and the 4th you just got.

#48 - Malcolm Brown - DT - The pass rush could use an upgrade.

-TRADE up- Using your 3rd and the TB 4th-

#72 - Jalen Collins - CB - Pure luxury pick here. Collins has measurable and a track record. I think the 6'2 CB could be the guy who replaces Browner as the "physical corner" in our D when he is gone in a few years.

3rd round comp - Preston Smith - DE - 6'6 and 265 he has the right build for a DE and seems to have made a jump since last year. I am hoping the upside is there. This is another luxury pick if Ayers stays but it adds good depth cause Moore is not a true DE and of a specialist role. If Ayers is gone DE becomes more important to address but I still like this player.

4th (ours) - Miles Dieffenbach - OG - I made this pick last time and I want to stick with it. Lots of upside in the 4th and worth a shot. OG is a good spot to double dip this year.

Per usually I am just doing the first 4 rounds.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

If we do trade up for a DT then I would like to see us get Heuerman.

I dunno, but I think Heuerman isn't going to fill the DT role well.

 

[dliverey]

I dunno, but I think Heuerman isn't going to fill the DT role well.

LOL...he is pretty versatile.

I meant if we go DT or DE in the first I would like to see us get Heuerman later.

 

[ATippett56]

The ATippett56 Early Bird Special

2015 New England Patriots Preliminary Mock Draft - 1/13/15

1st Round - Cameron Irving, OC/OG - Florida State (37)
2nd Round - Owamagbe Odighizuwa, DE - UCLA (53)
3rd Round - Utilized to trade up in the second round
3rd Round Compensatory - Laken Tomlinson, OG - Duke (93)
4th Round - David Cobb, RB - Minnesota (115) or Jeremy Langford, RB - Michigan State (117)
4th Round - Jeff Heuerman, TE - Ohio State (132)
6th Round - Tre McBride, WR - William & Mary (181)
7th Round - Ben Beckwith, OG - Mississippi State (243)

2015 Top NFL Draft Prospects Rankings (updated 1/12/2015) by NFLDraftScout.com

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/all

Priority UDFAs
Taylor Kelly, QB - Arizona State
Mark Weisman, FB - Iowa
Corey Grant, RB - Auburn
Dillon Day, OC - Mississippi State
Kaleb Johnson, OG - Rutgers
Terry Poole, OT - San Diego State
Mitch Morse, OT - Missouri
Sam Arneson, TE - Wisconsin
Deon Long, WR - Maryland
Cam Worthy, WR - East Carolina
Andre Davis, WR - South Florida
Cory Morrissey, DE - Iowa State
Marcus Hardison, DT - Arizona State
Taiwan Jones, ILB - Michigan State
Davis Tull, OLB - Chattanooga
Justin Cox, FS - Mississippi State
Ronald Martin, SS - LSU
Garry Peters, CB - Clemson
Joe Cardona, LS - Navy

 

[patsfaninpa]

The ATippett56 Early Bird Special

2015 New England Patriots Preliminary Mock Draft - 1/13/15

1st Round - Cameron Irving, OC/OG - Florida State (37)
2nd Round - Owamagbe Odighizuwa, DE - UCLA (53)
3rd Round - Utilized to trade up in the second round
3rd Round Compensatory - Laken Tomlinson, OG - Duke (93)
4th Round - David Cobb, RB - Minnesota (115) or Jeremy Langford, RB - Michigan State (117)
4th Round - Jeff Heuerman, TE - Ohio State (132)
6th Round - Tre McBride, WR - William & Mary (181)
7th Round - Ben Beckwith, OG - Mississippi State (243)

2015 Top NFL Draft Prospects Rankings (updated 1/12/2015) by NFLDraftScout.com

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/all

Priority UDFAs
Taylor Kelly, QB - Arizona State
Mark Weisman, FB - Iowa
Corey Grant, RB - Auburn
Dillon Day, OC - Mississippi State
Kaleb Johnson, OG - Rutgers
Terry Poole, OT - San Diego State
Sam Arneson, TE - Wisconsin
Deon Long, WR - Maryland
Cam Worthy, WR - East Carolina
Andre Davis, WR - South Florida
Cory Morrissey, DE - Iowa State
Marcus Hardison, DT - Arizona State
Taiwan Jones, ILB - Michigan State
Davis Tull, OLB - Chattanooga
Justin Cox, FS - Mississippi State
Ronald Martin, SS - LSU
Garry Peters, CB - Clemson
Joe Cardona, LS - Navy

That's an awesome mock. Need to keep VW with that. Our DT's catch a lot of heat when we give up a lot of rushing yardage. But, I feel Ninkovich and Chandler Jones get lax setting the edge. Don't press the blocker pushing the runner inside. Iggy should be really good at that. Even early in his career before he gets his pass rush moves down.

Love Erving and Tomlinson to help the interior of the OL. Not sure we need a 3rd guy. Will have trouble making the 53. I'd hope Terry Williams free falls and you get him with the early 6th and your wr in the 7th.

I like Cobb a little better than Langford. He wasn't running behind that OSU or Bama line. Really patient and can catch the ball.

Heuerman blocks his arse off too. And, is a decent athlete. Hearing good reports on McBride. Will admit I haven't seen him.