chicowalker
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plenty of cities in our country don't seem to have a problem getting new ball parks built. Miami just did. but my point is if it wasn't for politicians in Boston there would be a new ball park because its needed. banners championships good teams make history and create the atmosphere not the field they are played on. the new garden had plenty of soul when the celtics hung banner 17. there was plenty of soul when the bruins hung there Stanley cup banner. the place was rocking. the yankees built a new ball park because it makes good financial sense and its good for the team. do the owners get more money? sure they do. they own the team. a team that's making money is a healthy team and a team that can spend money if they want to. why would all these teams in mlb build new ball parks if it wasn't going to help the franchise? Seattle Pittsburgh and st louis another team with history. ect ect? i go to a game to watch highly competitive baseball and if im going to shell out the expensive money to go i want the entire exp. if i want to reminisce about the good old days ill put in a dvd. i never thought of baseball parks as theme parks or museums. if the team is losing like they did against the yankees the other night i'm thinking this suks. not wow imagine who played here 80 years ago. chicago has a great history, a history of losing.
new garden was soul-less when they moved the banners over... The Bruins fans I know far preferred the Garden.
building a park isn't as easy as you make it out to be -- plenty of them are done with public financing, which tends to be a bad deal for taxpayers. Yankee Stadium received a ton of subsidies from government -- of course the owners will want to do that. I'd take money from the taxpayers, too.
Aside from the obvious fact that not every team is in the same situation, do the new ballparks help those clubs?
Look, if you go to a game for a wide assortment of food options and nice bathrooms, I don't blame you one bit for wanting a new park. Fenway isn't for you, you're absolutely right.
But you're the one who seems to want the "theme park" at the game. I want baseball and tradition. You're the one who isn't happy with an existing field that most fans who've been there consider one of the great parks in the game. (Same goes for Wrigley, btw -- I'm guessing you've never been there. But it's a great place to see a game, if you're a baseball fan)
Museum? Not exactly. I don't need monuments, etc. -- the kind of thing which new Yankee Stadium is littered with, btw (wonder why they felt a need to do that...) I know what has happened on the field that I'm watching, both the good and the bad.
and to your point about the team losing like they did versus the Yankees this weekend -- would you have been happy watching it in a new park, eating sushi and watching fireworks after the game? I know I wouldn't.
But I can deal with a loss in a well played game, especially when I'm in a beautiful park laden w/history -- which Fenway is.
So, I'll ask the direct questions again, since you haven't answered: (i) Which ballparks do you prefer to Fenway? (new YS?) (ii) what need is there for a new park in terms of the club's best interests? They're already spending a ton -- would they spend more money or just line ownership's pockets? (I have no problem with owners making money -- but as a fan, that's not an argument to me for building a new park -- that's the owners' interests, not mine)