Schotty's playoff history (worse than I thought)

[VJCPatriot]

I bet you weren't picking Florida to win over the Buckeyes either. But it doesn't mean it won't happen. I think the Pats will win this game handily because Marty coaches scared in the big games. No disrespect intended there. :singing:

Take about no respect.

Ummm San Diego lowest output for the season was in week 3 to the Ravens. 13 points on the road.

next lowest was 20. We're averaging over 30 points a game.

So you're telling me that the Patriots are going to come into our house and hold us to the least point production of the year??? C'mon man. At least predict something a little more realistic.

If anything I see a close game. But there's no way you hold LT, Gates, Rivers & Jackson to 10 points that's just myopic.

 

[bolts_fan]

I couldn't stand being in Mensa. Lots of pretentious cloacal cavities whose official measured IQ didn't fill my left shoe.

I rather liked Groucho Marx's dictum "...I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would have me as a member..."

LOL. Agreed that there are many pretentious a-holes in Mensa, but I disagree about your assessment of their intelligence. The a-holes that I've met are actually quite smart, even if I couldn't stand them.

 

[tedy hagler]

Marty's reputation for choking goes way back to an article in which (I think) Lyle Alzado, then with the Browns, excoriated his coach for telling Brian Sipe after one of the early 1980s' Browns playoff games that the team had never been expected to win the game, but had lost in valiant fashion. The comments got a lot of press and the reputation stuck to Marty (bolstered by his crappy playoff record in later years).

What all this means for Sunday? Ask me Monday.

Tedy Hagler

 

[Flying Fungi]

They are new fans to playoff football. They still think it is the same as regular season football.

It's not their fault. Think of them as yappy little five years olds without manners annoying their elders at a family gathering.

too bad we can't make them sit at the kids table in the other room

 

[Brady'sButtBoy]

Well, if the Bolts fans want to argue that Brady made Belichick a "genius," then they ought to give our coach a little credit for at least figuring out how to let Brady do the winning. Something Schottz wasn't able to do despite having some guy named Brees, and LT, and Gates, and etc., etc.

Talent makes a coach eh?

2004 SD - Brees has a fantastic 104.8 QB rating for the season and the team gives up an eerily similar to 2006 19.6 points/per game. Darn another chance for Marty to let a star make him a genius slips by.

1997 Chiefs - No. 1 D (points allowed), No. 6 Offense (points scored). Yep, Marty wasn't made a genius made by this talented group which included seven pro bowlers.

1995 Chiefs - No. 1 D, 7 pro bowlers. Nope, Marty couldn't figure out how let these guys make him a genius either.

1993 and 1994, even some bum named Montana couldn't help Marty become a genius.

I'd have a lot of confidence in a coach who has lost five straight playoff games. That is if I wanted to be a Chargers fan!

Marty just might get it done this week, who knows? Should be a heck of game...

 

[bolts_fan]

I'm looking forward to it. Assuming it is true, it doesn't make your assesment of Belichick's intelligence any more valid than ours. You might have a high IQ, but if you're going to take time out of your day to post that on a some message board of the opponent of your favorite team, then you clearly aren't using it!

I feel silly for doing this, but a promise is a promise... here it is:

 

[TripleOption]

Take about no respect.

Ummm San Diego lowest output for the season was in week 3 to the Ravens. 13 points on the road.

next lowest was 20. We're averaging over 30 points a game.

So you're telling me that the Patriots are going to come into our house and hold us to the least point production of the year??? C'mon man. At least predict something a little more realistic.

If anything I see a close game. But there's no way you hold LT, Gates, Rivers & Jackson to 10 points that's just myopic.

Of course. You're right. That would never happen. Oh, and in 2003, the Indianapolis Colts, who by the way were averaging 27.9 points per game and scored 79 points in 2 playoff games wouldn't score 14 against the Pats and lose in the Playoffs would they? Oh wait, that DID happen.

But certainly then in 2004 the Colts, who averaged a gaudy 32.6 ppg and scored 49 points in one Divisional playoff game wouldn't be held to 3 points and lose in the Playoffs against the Pats, right? Oh, that happened, too.

Well, then...at least in 2004 the 15-1 Pittsburgh Steelers who averaged allowing a measly 15 points per game would NEVER give up 41 points to the Pats in the AFC Conference CHAMPIONSHIP game...

Oh, wait...

 

[VJCPatriot]

Hey a wise man once said that if you don't learn from history, history repeats itself. Looks like Chargers fans haven't been taking their history lesson. Betting on Marty to win a playoff game is like betting on the Titanic to beat the iceberg "this time!" :singing:

PS a Charger's fan being in Mensa and the chances of the Chargers winning next Sunday have zero correlation. Just thought you should know man-genius. ^_^

 

[RayClay]

Several points:

This all means little. 0-1 in the last 8 years? and lost in 1997 to the eventual SB winners?

This "Schottsie will find a way to lose" idea is way overblown. If we play like we did last year, there will not be a meaningful 4th quarter anyway.

Does anyone consider that having a great regular season could be from overachieving with the talent you have? I've thought that the Eagles, for example, have been more successful than their talent over the last 5 years.

If we are doing old history, his Browns were known as the Cardiac Kids one year for last minute wins.

Although I do agree that the sneak at the end last year against the Jets was dumb, especially with bad weather and a rookie kicker (IIRC).

I agree. He's had competitive teams everywhere he went and if Cowher can win one so could he, (not this year, but hypothetically).

He's coached poorly and had some bad luck, but you'd be crazy to assume someone with his experience is just waiting to choke it up.

Our coach is not crazy and is probably very familiar with Shotty's propensities.

 

[RayClay]

I feel silly for doing this, but a promise is a promise... here it is:

HaHa, what a loser. Anybody with a decent SAT score can be in Mensa.

A lot of people who qualify wouldn't bother, because the people who value such stupid measurements are usually losers and social misfits.

Congratulations and welcome to the society of people so awkward and insecure they need a "badge" to assure themselves of their worth.

Everybody knows a genius is someone like Norman Einstein.

 

[LT=MVP]

Good god.

Save the flight time guys. Can San Diego just call the NFL front office and concede to the unbeatable Patriots? I mean 3 rings. It's just all to overwhelming for all the Charger players I'd imagine. Im sure they're all just shaking there heads for the impending stomping that the Pats are gonna give em.

I guess that's why you homers aren't coaches.

I must say at least your coach and QB have a little more common sense on the matchup on this clip.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs06/news/story?id=2726821

 

[jcdavey]

i guess since marty's record in the playoffs is so horrible, if the chargers lose you're all just going to kill yourselves right? cause that would be the ultimate embarassment correct?

 

[LT=MVP]

i guess since marty's record in the playoffs is so horrible, if the chargers lose you're all just going to kill yourselves right? cause that would be the ultimate embarassment correct?

I find it hilarious that all you guys have dwelled on is Marty. Hate to break it to ya. But.... Martyball died in B'more. FYI Cam and Wade do the play calling.

 

[jcdavey]

I find it hilarious that all you guys have dwelled on is Marty. Hate to break it to ya. But.... Martyball died in B'more. FYI Cam and Wade do the play calling.

i think half of them think marty is going to all of the sudden strip cam of the playcalling starting sunday haha.

i think the pats fans have had their team disrespected so much that they think automatically that no one outside of their fanbase has respect for how great their dynasty was, when that couldn't be farther from the truth.

i look forward to the chargers earning their respect on the field sunday.

 

[sanvara]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but Herald ran a list of Schotty's post-season results. I hadn't realized how many 4th quarter leads he's actually blown.

What I'd be most worried about if I was a Chargers fan is his last three playoff appearances -- he's certainly shown no sign of improvement, and in fact based on recent history is regressing when it comes to playoff success.

Here's an objective look at Marty's playoff record.

Link

"So there you have it.

In 17 playoff games, Marty's impact has been positive five times, negative four times and neutral eight times. I knew it. There's no way a coach this good (200-126-1, .613) could truly be that bad in the postseason.

These things have a way of evening out. Just ask Bill Cowher who finally won the big one last year after three home losses in the AFC title game."

 

[TripleOption]

Here's an objective look at Marty's playoff record.

Link

"So there you have it.

In 17 playoff games, Marty's impact has been positive five times, negative four times and neutral eight times. I knew it. There's no way a coach this good (200-126-1, .613) could truly be that bad in the postseason.

These things have a way of evening out. Just ask Bill Cowher who finally won the big one last year after three home losses in the AFC title game."

Oh, I see. Some news tool decides how good his coaching is, and we are supposed to buy it? A guy who's never coached in his life?

"You are what your record says you are"

--Bill Parcells

 

[DagoTom]

"You are what your record says you are"

--Bill Parcells

I guess it's a good thing Belichik didn't buy into that nonsense back when his career coaching mark was 41-55 and he'd failed to reach the postseason in five out of six years as a head coach. Right?

 

[TripleOption]

I guess it's a good thing Belichik didn't buy into that nonsense back when his career coaching mark was 41-55 and he'd failed to reach the postseason in five out of six years as a head coach. Right?

Was anyone trying to put him in the Hall of Fame then?

Nope.

At least he had the two rings from the Giants...How about Marty?

 

[DagoTom]

Was anyone trying to put him in the Hall of Fame then?

Nope.

At least he had the two rings from the Giants...How about Marty?

Who's trying to put Marty in the hall of fame? The point you were arguing was countering the notion the sportswriter asserted that Marty's playoff record isn't as bad as it looks and isn't all on Marty. At least the writer took the time to actually look at each of the wins and losses, which is more than I can say for 99% of the people who go on and on about Marty's playoff record.

You guys keep using the past to predict the future. That's fine but don't get too comfortable doing that because past trends have a way of reversing. Like Belichik suddenly becoming a winning coach when he hadn't been before, like Parcells suddenly being unable to get it done in the postseason, and like Cowher suddenly winning that elusive superbowl.

 

[shirtsleeve]

Take about no respect.

Ummm San Diego lowest output for the season was in week 3 to the Ravens. 13 points on the road.

next lowest was 20. We're averaging over 30 points a game.

So you're telling me that the Patriots are going to come into our house and hold us to the least point production of the year??? C'mon man. At least predict something a little more realistic.

If anything I see a close game. But there's no way you hold LT, Gates, Rivers & Jackson to 10 points that's just myopic.

If you dont think our D is more capable than the Baltimore regular season one IN A PLAYOFF GAME, it is you sir, who is myopic.

This is going to be a tough test for the D to be sure. I expect the Chargers to also bring a better game than a regular season one. 17-20 points is reasonable to expect from your team for offensive production this weekend. The question is, can our offense score the 24-27 points needed to insure victory. I think they can, if they dont make any stupid mistakes.