ESPN preseason ranking of AFC East WR's

[glm]

Unlike you I tink th ePatriots have a vastly improverdd Offesne and that includes the Wrs and Tes. Galloway is older than dirt, bu the WAS teh fastest guy in yh enFGL.ifhes lost a srteo matybe he si only among the top ten. Randay amoss has Galloways spwedd andsomehting else , size andbody contriol. thsioeose two are both #1 receivers at the minimu,m.elker si the numbe rone slot in th elieague . buffalos pair migh apperoach hsi numbers bu tthat si aa maybe. At Te buffalo may ahve a drafted a good ROOKIE, but to compare his mto a toster with 4 starter quality TEs is ridiculous.

Just as important as catching the ball, who throws it is important too. I'll take Brady instead of Trent, sorry.

What the hell are you tring to say?

 

[supafly]

What the hell are you tring to say?

He's usually a pretty spot on poster, maybe someone's tipping the bottle tonight???

 

[livinginthe past]

Patriots gets ranked top again?

BOOOOOOORRRIIINNNNGGG!!

Thats what the rest of the AFCE and its fanbase would think - lets be honest Patriots fans are only 1/4 of the readers (approximately) of these blogs and columns - that means 3/4 who will be pissed to see the god damn Patriots ranked number 1 again.

This a bone thrown to those long suffering fans of Buffalo - god knows they need it.

Us intelligent types (Patriots fans) know that WR don't operate in a vacuum - that the QB and the quality of the O-line play are massive factors.

 

[supafly]

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[Deus Irae]

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It's just someone creating different accounts to spam the site.

 

[Patjew]

I completely agree with his take re: the Bills over the Patriots.

Would you trade the Bills' WRs for the Pats'? I would not, but that's obviously just my opinion.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I don't know if I agree with his assessment of Buffalo overtaking NE's receiver's but the Bills do have a decent WR core now. Evans and Owens on the outside, Reed in the slot, and 2nd rd pick Hardy looks promising. Not saying I'm in love with these guys, just agreeing with the fact that they are improving their receiving core to some degree.

Also in Miami, you now have Ginn and 6'5" Patrick Turner on the outside, with Camarillo and Devone Bess in the slot. Couple that with Pat White, and their receivers look improved too.

As far as the NYJ go, I'm glad they got rid of Coles, but Cotchery is still there, and if they end up getting their hands on either Boldin, B.Edwards, or Burress, they'd be decent too on the outside. Couple that with burners Brad Smith, Chansi Stuckey, and David Clowney and they don't look too bad either.

I tend to think the East will give us a bit more problems though than others here, as I'd be happy going 4 out of 6 in the division. I hope Galloway still can play, and wouldn't mind keeping Watson for one last yr--as his blocking has improved, and he seemed to lack some chemistry with Cassel that should be improved with Tom back.

I hope I'm wrong and we end up going 5-1 rather than 4-2 in the division, but I just don't see 6-0 this yr. I know the homers here will surely disagree, but I think the East has improved. That's just one opinion though, and hopefully we'll just flat out dominate.

I'd be fine with 5-1, but I also wouldn't even be remotely surprised to see Buffalo and NYJ completely implode over the course of the season, much as they did last year. Regardless of the talent that the Bills have at WR, they don't have any real talent to speak of anywhere else.

For the Jets, Ryan may end up being the solution, and he and Scott and Sheppard might just flat-out fix that defense, and maybe Gholston will go from crap to awesome in one offseason. Stranger things have happened. They also have a decent OL and some good running backs, but I think the absolute best that they can be this year is a (very) pale imitation of last year's Ravens. Not just because of the coach, but because the personnel it somewhat similar. That would take a lot of good breaks though, including Sanchez playing to Flacco's level as a rookie (which itself is pretty unlikely).

The Dolphins are legit, but considering that, once the wildcat novelty wore off, we absolutely murdered them with Cassel at QB, I'm not as worried about them as I might otherwise be.

 

[patsfan-1982]

A preseason ranking of AFC East receivers

May 21, 2009 4:18 PM

Posted by ESPN.com's Tim Graham

No position has generated more offseason buzz in the AFC East than wide receiver.

Whether they signed new receivers or not, all four clubs had significant decisions to make.

With organized team activities in full swing, let's rank the division's receiver corps. This list will factor in the entire band of receivers. We'll factor in pass-catching tight ends, but we're not counting running backs.

And we're not considering quarterbacks, either.

1. Buffalo Bills: If citizens of Patriot Nation haven't immediately scrolled to the bottom of this post to leave a comment, they can read why I put Buffalo atop the list.

The Bills' depth chart is gifted from top to bottom.

The Bills feature one of the most dangerous 1-2 tandems in the NFL. Terrell Owens and Lee Evans combined for 132 catches for 2,069 yards and 13 touchdowns last year.

Those numbers should go up now that they're together. Evans always faced double coverage, and Owens drew just as much attention. The next-busiest Dallas Cowboys receiver had only 39 receptions last year.

But what puts Buffalo ahead of New England is the depth beyond the top two guys. They have two terrific slot receivers in Josh Reed (56 receptions) and Roscoe Parrish (24 receptions).

The Bills have been high on the long-term future of 2008 seventh-round draft choice Steve Johnson since they saw him in training camp. They also have last year's second-round pick, the 6-foot-5 James Hardy, recovering from a knee injury.

Tight end is a question mark for them. They lopped Robert Royal's butterfingers from the roster and drafted Shawn Nelson from Southern Miss. Draft analysts lauded the pick, but draft analysts say a lot of things that never come to pass.

2. New England Patriots: If we were ranking the stats of any two receivers from a given team, then the Patriots would rate higher than the Bills.

Randy Moss and Wes Welker are indisputably sensational. But while the Patriots' offense helps Welker roll up huge reception totals from the slot, their other combined stats are just a smidge better than what Evans and Owens registered separately.

Moss and Welker scored one more touchdown and teamed up for only 6.5 yards more per game than Evans and Owens in double coverage.

Yes, that was with Matt Cassel throwing the ball and not Tom Brady. But I'd like to see what kind of numbers a healthy Brady would post with Owens, Evans and Parrish. Those 2007 records would be threatened.

The Patriots lost Jabar Gaffney to free agency. They signed the injury-plagued Joey Galloway (13 catches in nine games last year) and traded for Greg Lewis (averaging 18.7 catches over the past three years).

At tight end, the Patriots are in flux. They appear on the verge of moving past Benjamin Watson, signing Chris Baker and trading for Alex Smith. This position is a huge X-factor.

If either Galloway or Lewis step up for a big year and a tight end emerges, then maybe their receivers will surpass the Bills'.



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i will agree with him that the bills WR as a whole are better on papper right now

but to say if brady had T.O evans and Parrish they would brake the 2007 racord for point's 589 ?


the team that held that racord 556 points 1998 Minnesota had randy moss on it and Randall Cunningham at QB

randy moss is the most explosive WR to ever play in the NFL and thats why the pats broke thats racord because team's put 2 and 3 guy's on moss and he still beat's them

 

[Kontradiction]

Is there a worse receiving corps in the league than the one the Jets currently have?

The Titans. The Chargers don't have much of a one outside Jackson either. But the Jets are easily in the top five.

 

[efin98]

The Titans. The Chargers don't have much of a one outside Jackson either. But the Jets are easily in the top five.

How much are the Titans' problems due to their mediocre to average QB in Collins?

 

[stinkypete]

The Titans. The Chargers don't have much of a one outside Jackson either. But the Jets are easily in the top five.

I'd disagree with that assessment of the Chargers. Jackson, Chambers and Davis (if healthy) are a pretty talented, though unspectacular, core group. Did we forget that Rivers had over 30 TD passes last year?

 

[jcdavey]

I'd disagree with that assessment of the Chargers. Jackson, Chambers and Davis (if healthy) are a pretty talented, though unspectacular, core group. Did we forget that Rivers had over 30 TD passes last year?

and gates if healthy is more like a wr than a TE

sd had the #2 scoring offense in the nfl in LT's worst year as a pro in 08

 

[WhiZa]

These ESPN guys are clueless The Jets behind Buff, cmon.

you are a good sport. Setting yourself up like that and all

 

[WhiZa]

The Titans. The Chargers don't have much of a one outside Jackson either. But the Jets are easily in the top five.

The titans at least went WR in their first round, and Malcolm Floyd torched us last year. Jets downgraded their WR (i cant name any outside crotchery) and QB. They will probably be running the ball on every first and second down

 

[bagwell368]

TO is over the hill. But this is espn, what do you expect a coherent analysis??

not only that, wasn't TO #2 last year in drops? In fact since the SB game against the Pats he drops a ton of passes. So if he catches 90 what does that mean 194 throws in his direction?

 

[PatsFanSince74]

This will be settled "on the field" between September and January. The author is taking the view (a) that TO is "still TO," (b) that the Bills have more depth at the position and (c) that the Bills have a QB who can consistently get the ball to these receivers. I question (a), I can't argue on the facts at this time with (b) and I seriously doubt (c).

Otherwise, he's just trying to get clicks for his article (no one outside New England would read it if he followed the CW and said that Moss and Welker represented the best WR combo in the Division, if not in the league) and we'll see how it goes down.

Same old, same old. Yawn.

 

[37Harrison]

A preseason ranking of AFC East receivers

May 21, 2009 4:18 PM

Posted by ESPN.com's Tim Graham

No position has generated more offseason buzz in the AFC East than wide receiver.

Whether they signed new receivers or not, all four clubs had significant decisions to make.

With organized team activities in full swing, let's rank the division's receiver corps. This list will factor in the entire band of receivers. We'll factor in pass-catching tight ends, but we're not counting running backs.

And we're not considering quarterbacks, either.

1. Buffalo Bills: If citizens of Patriot Nation haven't immediately scrolled to the bottom of this post to leave a comment, they can read why I put Buffalo atop the list.

The Bills' depth chart is gifted from top to bottom.

The Bills feature one of the most dangerous 1-2 tandems in the NFL. Terrell Owens and Lee Evans combined for 132 catches for 2,069 yards and 13 touchdowns last year.

Those numbers should go up now that they're together. Evans always faced double coverage, and Owens drew just as much attention. The next-busiest Dallas Cowboys receiver had only 39 receptions last year.

But what puts Buffalo ahead of New England is the depth beyond the top two guys. They have two terrific slot receivers in Josh Reed (56 receptions) and Roscoe Parrish (24 receptions).

The Bills have been high on the long-term future of 2008 seventh-round draft choice Steve Johnson since they saw him in training camp. They also have last year's second-round pick, the 6-foot-5 James Hardy, recovering from a knee injury.

Tight end is a question mark for them. They lopped Robert Royal's butterfingers from the roster and drafted Shawn Nelson from Southern Miss. Draft analysts lauded the pick, but draft analysts say a lot of things that never come to pass.

2. New England Patriots: If we were ranking the stats of any two receivers from a given team, then the Patriots would rate higher than the Bills.

Randy Moss and Wes Welker are indisputably sensational. But while the Patriots' offense helps Welker roll up huge reception totals from the slot, their other combined stats are just a smidge better than what Evans and Owens registered separately.

Moss and Welker scored one more touchdown and teamed up for only 6.5 yards more per game than Evans and Owens in double coverage.

Yes, that was with Matt Cassel throwing the ball and not Tom Brady. But I'd like to see what kind of numbers a healthy Brady would post with Owens, Evans and Parrish. Those 2007 records would be threatened.

The Patriots lost Jabar Gaffney to free agency. They signed the injury-plagued Joey Galloway (13 catches in nine games last year) and traded for Greg Lewis (averaging 18.7 catches over the past three years).

At tight end, the Patriots are in flux. They appear on the verge of moving past Benjamin Watson, signing Chris Baker and trading for Alex Smith. This position is a huge X-factor.

If either Galloway or Lewis step up for a big year and a tight end emerges, then maybe their receivers will surpass the Bills'.



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I had to stop reading that because they are comparing receivers that were on the same team and had Matt Cassel throwing to them for his first real action in the NFL to a pair of receivers from two different teams to make the comparison?

Then they go and discount Welkers totals because of the type of offense they are in but then say the Bills have two terrific slots receivers whose combined totals don't even come close to Welker's single season total?

FAIL!!!

 

[ScottieC]

I completely agree with his take re: the Bills over the Patriots.

You completely agree - So you can not even formulate an argument that would include Wes Welker, Randy Moss and the additions from the off season?

Seriously John, you've completely lost it.

You don't have to be a Homer, but that's nuts.

 

[Kontradiction]

How much are the Titans' problems due to their mediocre to average QB in Collins?

Probably lots. I was just talking production. Justin Gage looks like he has a good combo of size and speed but I'm not sure about his route running. Nate Washington was a good pick-up. Washington was actually the "number two" receiver I wanted us to sign before we picked up Galloway.

 

[Kontradiction]

I'd disagree with that assessment of the Chargers. Jackson, Chambers and Davis (if healthy) are a pretty talented, though unspectacular, core group. Did we forget that Rivers had over 30 TD passes last year?

Chambers has only had one 1,000 yard season since he's been a pro. Even then, he isn't what he used to be.