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Old 09-02-2009, 09:36 PM   #11
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LADELPHIA — The Giants probably will spend more money on sod and fertilizer than they will tender Brad Penny for his services this season.
Boy, did they ever hit paydirt Wednesday night.
Penny's debut was a brilliant success, and Juan Uribe, another player acquired on the cheap, supplied most of the offense in a 4-0 victory over the Philadelphia Phillies at Citizens Bank Park
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Old 09-02-2009, 09:47 PM   #12
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Old 09-02-2009, 10:11 PM   #13
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Which goes to show you three things;

1.) The National League is the B league, that league sucks (last year not withstanding).

2.) These are the Red Sox; despite them finally breaking through and winning not one but two World Series, in some ways (they ****can not one but two pitchers and BOTH of them have looked great since) they will always be your Grandfathers Red Sox.

3.) Our pitching coach blows.
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Old 09-03-2009, 12:46 AM   #14
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Which goes to show you three things;

1.) The National League is the B league, that league sucks (last year not withstanding).

2.) These are the Red Sox; despite them finally breaking through and winning not one but two World Series, in some ways (they ****can not one but two pitchers and BOTH of them have looked great since) they will always be your Grandfathers Red Sox.

3.) Our pitching coach blows.
i totally disagree with point number two. smoltz has only had two starts . penny has had one. give it time they will suck again. the jays and the orioles are better than 80 percent of the national league teams. the al east is bye far the hardest to pitch in. the sox are anything but your grandfathers redsox and john farell is a very good pitching coach. see john lester papelbon ect ect. baseball is just a f--ked up game. sometimes there is just no explanation to how things workout. i blame smoltz and penny not the sox. you need a cold beer.
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Old 09-03-2009, 08:47 AM   #15
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i totally disagree with point number two. smoltz has only had two starts . penny has had one. give it time they will suck again. the jays and the orioles are better than 80 percent of the national league teams. the al east is bye far the hardest to pitch in. the sox are anything but your grandfathers redsox and john farell is a very good pitching coach. see john lester papelbon ect ect. baseball is just a f--ked up game. sometimes there is just no explanation to how things workout. i blame smoltz and penny not the sox. you need a cold beer.
If Farell is a very good pitching coach, riddle me this; IF Beckett is not injured, explain why he has been lousy for not one, not two, not three but four strait outings. IF it's mechanics, a "very good" pitching coach would have corrected it by now.

Sutcliffe on the broadcast last night said Beckett's mechanics are all screwed up and guess what; he's NOT our pitching coach, but he can see it.

And our "very good" pitching coach screwed up Dice K, our 18 game winner last year.

And the bullpen, once a so called strength of this team, has imploded; Okajima, Ramirez, Del Carmen; (I DO NOT want to see this stiff in ONE MORE situation with a game on the line, period, he is effin terrible) thank Christ Papelbon got the 6 outs the other night or that would have been a disaster too.

He sucks, so deal with it.
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If Farell is a very good pitching coach, riddle me this; IF Beckett is not injured, explain why he has been lousy for not one, not two, not three but four strait outings. IF it's mechanics, a "very good" pitching coach would have corrected it by now.

Sutcliffe on the broadcast last night said Beckett's mechanics are all screwed up and guess what; he's NOT our pitching coach, but he can see it.

And our "very good" pitching coach screwed up Dice K, our 18 game winner last year.

And the bullpen, once a so called strength of this team, has imploded; Okajima, Ramirez, Del Carmen; (I DO NOT want to see this stiff in ONE MORE situation with a game on the line, period, he is effin terrible) thank Christ Papelbon got the 6 outs the other night or that would have been a disaster too.

He sucks, so deal with it.
your over reacting again lol. dice k sucks because he put all his efforts into the world baseball classic. he came into spring training out of shape and not ready to play and he didn't follow the redsox off season program. who's fault is that? farrel? i don't think so. a pitching coach can point out mechanical issues to a pitcher but its up to the pitcher to fix it. john farrel cant throw the pitch. farrel was on nesn yesterday talking about beckett and some mechanical issues he has. he sees the same thing sutcliff does. the bullpen is one of the best in baseball. is it perfect? no[see manny delcareman] but no bullpen is. the redsox are 20 something games over 500 . they aren't a losing team. now go drink two beers and add some Valium and pull yourself together man.
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If Farell is a very good pitching coach, riddle me this; IF Beckett is not injured, explain why he has been lousy for not one, not two, not three but four strait outings. IF it's mechanics, a "very good" pitching coach would have corrected it by now.

Sutcliffe on the broadcast last night said Beckett's mechanics are all screwed up and guess what; he's NOT our pitching coach, but he can see it.

And our "very good" pitching coach screwed up Dice K, our 18 game winner last year.

And the bullpen, once a so called strength of this team, has imploded; Okajima, Ramirez, Del Carmen; (I DO NOT want to see this stiff in ONE MORE situation with a game on the line, period, he is effin terrible) thank Christ Papelbon got the 6 outs the other night or that would have been a disaster too.

He sucks, so deal with it.
If you listened the whole time you would have heard that they think he has arm fatigue which is common in September and that the fatigue is leading to a longer delivery to the plate so that he can get more speed. He tries to change the delivery to deal with the fatigue, but it doesn't work. The reason his speed on his fastball goes from 95-91 is because of the fatigue. Learn the facts and then post
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I felt that Penny and Smoltz were better served in the NL rather the AL.
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Gee, I guess you really told me; if he has arm fatigue, then shut him down for a start, WTF is the point of throwing him out there if he has a tired arm?
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I have been of the opinion for many years now that every starter should skip 1 turn in the rotation in August. I think the benefits of the move outweigh the risks. Not a 6-man rotation but a full 9 days off between 1 start. Wouldn't hurt to try.
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