bradmahn

There simply aren't a lot of good quarterbacks in the league, backup or otherwise.

It's hard to get something out of nothing, especially when you're not inclined to invest a lot of money or draft picks on the position of backup to an Iron Man legend. (Knock on wood, of course.)

Sometimes, no matter how positive you think, you just can't turn **** into gold.

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I don't like Dungy and that's because he [was] the head coach of the Colts. Period. End of question. The degree to which I like a player or coach is predicated solely on the color of the laundry they wear on Sunday. When fans admit this and stop bashing players and coaches for any other reason, the world of sports will be infinitely improved.

dhamz

That appears to be the argument the OP is advocating.

Wildo7

Also that there just isn't a lot of QB talent to go around. The fact that none of the top teams have a good back up doesn't mean we'll be ok if TB goes down, it means that there just aren't good QBs available that will play backup.

Deus Irae

The only thing 'the OP' is advocating is for people to step off the ledge and to stop acting as if they know more than BB does about his quarterbacks and how they are doing this exhibition season. The rest is just common sense that doesn't seem to be all that common here lately.

However, that has nothing to do with the exercise I posted about, which is a separate question, even though there is some overlap.

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RayClay

It doesn't mean you accept lack of progress. We've had vets who could hardly run or throw, but they could control a team.

There is a minimum standard. If it isn't met, you move on until it is. Maybe you'll get lucky with a 6th, it happens.

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PATRIOTSFANINPA

So what you are saying is Belichick signing Duane Starks was a good move,Belichick bringing in Monte Beisel was a good fit,Belichick adding Chad Brown who he thought had something left
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Yes Belichick even though he is a smart coach, does make mistakes with players no matter if its preseason or offseason and keeping Cassel this long is one of them along with the losers I mentioned above.

Deus Irae

Thank you for once again illustrating the silliness of some of the opposing arguments people have been tossing out by both arguing something I clearly didn't AND doing it poorly given the recent drafting at CB and LB. If you keep up like this, people are going to start thinking that you're just a stalking horse for me.

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AndyJohnson

Personally, I thnink however you rank the top 5 teams, if all lost their QBs, there wouldnt be much difference in the order.

I'd go:
1) Patriots
2) Colts
3) Chargers
4) Cowboys
5) Jaguars

I also think that the differences between those teams are largely because of the QBs, and if you removed the QBs they would all still be contenders, and will all playing backup QBs I'd drop the Colts down 1 spot and leave the rest in the same order.

The idea that Brady is so great that the team would fail without him is wrong to me.
The team was 18-1 last year because of him, but that doesnt mean its 1-18 without him. There is so much talent on this team that it is EASILY a 10 win team with anyone at QB, what Brady adds is that those 10 wins are a whole lot easier, and the other 6-9 games are mostly won with him, and mostly lost without.

Wildo7

I don't think that trend is a coincidence. If you have invested in a start-worthy backup QB, the rest of your team most likely sucks or you have a mediocre starting QB. Backup QBs aren't supposed to be as good as starters, that's why they are backups. And the small sample size of two preseason games taken out of context (we don't even know what BB is trying to sort out in these games) isn't enough to convince me that we desperately need a better backup QB, even if we could realistically get one, which we probably can't.

PATRIOTSFANINPA

You just have it in your little mind that Belichick is free of making mistakes and judgment - While I agree that he is the best coach in the league both in smarts and strategic plans vs. his opponents, he is far from being perfect and Casell on this roster is a waste and a mistake that everyone EXCEPT YOU realizes.

Maybe its crazy but maybe Cassel is that Patriot player type of guy from head to toe and is so likable by everyone that its hard for the team to let him go despite him sucking in just about any game he has been in,Thats the only logical explanation I can see because I dont think there is a fan in Patriots Nation EXCEPT YOU that can agree that Cassel does not have the talent for the pros

Show me what you have seen that makes us all wrong besides the fact that you think Belichick is perfect in who he signs and keeps?

Yes Belichick has an excellent track record of picking players who produce and has gone on to win 3 SBs but he also has had some losers who are now selling vacumn cleaners door to door.


Let me guess,You are the ONE that bought that Cassel jersey on sale at Patriots proshop because I saw they finally sold the one they had just last week after being in inventory for 3 years - I knew it was going to sell quickly for $1.99 - congratulations - What a deal,wear it proudly!