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Old 12-18-2012, 02:31 AM   #51
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I saw the consequence of a nickel DB not suited to the position he was playing whiff on a tackle. You can argue the playcall all you like, all Arrington had to do was tackle Crabtree. That was it.
And you know what? You have an extremely valid point.

Belichick put Arrington out there as he had before, expecting him to be able to make the play or at least the tackle. Unfortunately, that did not happen. Sometimes in this game it's just as simple as that.

While the majority of the blame definitely goes to Arrington, those like myself that aren't too thrilled with the playcall are going to argue that it was a move that had a high percentage of failing written all over it.

At the end of the day they are both likely correct on some level, depending on your particular opinion. In this case I think it was a combination of player and coach to blame, but I certainly could be wrong.

I do not ever really question someone like Belichick for obvious reasons. In this case I did just due to having witnessed poor outside technique and tackling from Arrington in the past. I also don't think it was the proper time to blitz in that situation. At any rate, you bring up an excellent point that Belichick trusts his players, and this was a time where that was on the big screen in a big time setting.

One thing we can all agree on is that it happened, it's over, and it's no use crying over spilled milk at this point.
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:47 AM   #52
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And you know what? You have an extremely valid point.

Belichick put Arrington out there as he had before, expecting him to be able to make the play or at least the tackle. Unfortunately, that did not happen. Sometimes in this game it's just as simple as that.

While the majority of the blame definitely goes to Arrington, those like myself that aren't too thrilled with the playcall are going to argue that it was a move that had a high percentage of failing written all over it.

At the end of the day they are both likely correct on some level, depending on your particular opinion. In this case I think it was a combination of player and coach to blame, but I certainly could be wrong.

I do not ever really question someone like Belichick for obvious reasons. In this case I did just due to having witnessed poor outside technique and tackling from Arrington in the past. I also don't think it was the proper time to blitz in that situation. At any rate, you bring up an excellent point that Belichick trusts his players, and this was a time where that was on the big screen in a big time setting.

One thing we can all agree on is that it happened, it's over, and it's no use crying over spilled milk at this point.
We've seen the results of a DB/WR mismatch before (much to our dismay supa). I'd like to pile on BB/Patricia for making that call, but once more it came down to execution. At worst, that should have been a 6-8 yard pick up. It's just so damned hard to measure fatigue at that point because the Patriots had stoned the 49ers O for how many series before that? Arrington look spent trying to turn with Crabtree. You can't fault him for being tired. It was a brutal match in some harsh weather.

I understand why the Pats kept their foot on the 49ers throat. Outside of the James return, everything the Patriots had touched for the last 15 minutes turned to gold. Whichever way it's spun, it's now history. It was a good game between NFL titans. The Pats were on the wrong end of the result. So be it. On to Jacksonville.
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How sad is it that we're depending on a 7th round rookie to fix the starting CB spot?
Well, we are relying on a 6th round QB...
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That's completely irrelevant to my post since they already had a legitimate starting QB as the starter prior to Brady's arrival, although he didn't fit the new system, and it also ignores the amount of resources spent on the CBs.
Its not irrelevant....your point is clearly that you say its sad that the team is relying on a low round draft choice to carry the team in one position....the same as Brady had to do in 2001

A Legitimate starter has absolutely nothing to do with your post,nor was it even mentioned.....its the same thing if you thought about it,even for a split second
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Its not irrelevant....your point is clearly that you say its sad that the team is relying on a low round draft choice to carry the team in one position....the same as Brady had to do in 2001

A Legitimate starter has absolutely nothing to do with your post,nor was it even mentioned.....its the same thing if you thought about it,even for a split second
No, my point is that a 7th round rookie is being relied upon to start, not that a second year player who's had a season of working with the team is starting.

You chose to ignore the "rookie" portion of my post. Brady was not a rookie, therefore the Brady comments are irrelevant.
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No, my point is that a 7th round rookie is being relied upon to start, not that a second year player who's had a season of working with the team is starting.

You chose to ignore the "rookie" portion of my post. Brady was not a rookie, therefore the Brady comments are irrelevant.
Might as well consider Brady a rookie in 2001....when you rely on a 6th round player who threw 3 NFL passes in his rookie campaign to replace a QB who was considered the savior of what was once a sorry franchise until 1993 was sad at the time,fans were hoping a young player and a late round draft pick would succeed was the case back then and it is now with Dennard.....regardless of being a rookie or not.
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so what's his status? I guess no one knows.
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If I was to guess I'd say he will be listed as Questionable but will not play this weekend.

I also think if he plays against Miami it will be a limited role
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Might as well consider Brady a rookie in 2001....when you rely on a 6th round player who threw 3 NFL passes in his rookie campaign to replace a QB who was considered the savior of what was once a sorry franchise until 1993 was sad at the time,fans were hoping a young player and a late round draft pick would succeed was the case back then and it is now with Dennard.....regardless of being a rookie or not.
Now you're just making incredibly silly posts in order to defend your earlier irrelevant post.


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No, McCourty is horrid at CB and slightly better at S. He at least doesnt have to turn his head back for the ball at S, but seems to misjudge where hes supposed to be on long completions.

I saw Wilson leave the game with a leg injury. Did he return?
Your avatar fits you perfectly... McCourty is NOT horrid a CB. He's actually pretty good. He's the better option at safety, currently, than Wilson or Chung. Not sure how you can claim he misjudges the long completions considering what he did on the interception the other night. But then, you typically have off the wall claims that aren't supported.
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