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Old 12-08-2012, 01:48 PM   #11
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Just listened to Greg Cosell talk a little bit about HOU's play action. Said that it's insane how hard it is to defend... that sometimes a DL guy is unblocked, but the fake takes care of him anyways.

Also said that it will be interesting to see whether BB puts Talib on AJ, or if he doubles AJ and puts his best corner (Talib, implied) on the #2 guy (Daniels?).
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double aj with whoever..and let walter beat you
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Just listened to Greg Cosell talk a little bit about HOU's play action. Said that it's insane how hard it is to defend... that sometimes a DL guy is unblocked, but the fake takes care of him anyways.

Also said that it will be interesting to see whether BB puts Talib on AJ, or if he doubles AJ and puts his best corner (Talib, implied) on the #2 guy (Daniels?).
I wonder if we'll see the Pats try to confuse Schaub by disguising coverages they way they used to in the old days, or even see some ameboid elements. Unlikely, but it wouldn't shock me to see a few surprises.
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Just listened to Greg Cosell talk a little bit about HOU's play action. Said that it's insane how hard it is to defend... that sometimes a DL guy is unblocked, but the fake takes care of him anyways.

Also said that it will be interesting to see whether BB puts Talib on AJ, or if he doubles AJ and puts his best corner (Talib, implied) on the #2 guy (Daniels?).
Don't think they will double AJ but will probably bracket him by converting McCourty into rover safety and cheating him to where AJ aligns on the LOS. I think we'll be in the 4-3 under nickel with Arrington picking up Daniels.
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I wonder if we'll see the Pats try to confuse Schaub by disguising coverages they way they used to in the old days, or even see some ameboid elements. Unlikely, but it wouldn't shock me to see a few surprises.
I was thinking BB may come up with something special for this team.
But maybe he'll save it. Since there is a good possibility that PATs
may see the Texans in the playoffs and knowing how BB always likes
to be prepared for the future he may not show his whole hand at this time.
PATs are in the playoffs and so this not a must have game.
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Don't think they will double AJ but will probably bracket him by converting McCourty into rover safety and cheating him to where AJ aligns on the LOS. I think we'll be in the 4-3 under nickel with Arrington picking up Daniels.
I'm assuming you mean 4-2 nickel, but wouldn't it make sense to have a bigger DB on Daniels if you are going to go man coverage? Is your thinking that Arringtom hurts us the least on someone who is unlikely to get deep?
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I wonder if we'll see the Pats try to confuse Schaub by disguising coverages they way they used to in the old days, or even see some ameboid elements. Unlikely, but it wouldn't shock me to see a few surprises.
I dont think we disgusie coverages any less than we used to. Some of the NFLN and ESPN shows have started to point out these examples as they analyze our D (seems they analyze it a lot more when it does well).
The ameboid is more of a disguising the rush. I'm not sure why we don't do that, but it seems like discipline is a work in progress for our defense, so that may well be why.
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I would think that when you try to collapse the pocket quicker than the play-action is allowed to develop, this would do the job. In the act of collapsing the pocket, I would think we'd "contain" rush which would allow one of the lineman to quickly shed if the RB gets a ball and tries to exploit a lane.
Well, if we are trying to stop the run we wouldn't really be collapsing the pocket. That is why play action works, despite being slow developing because your passrushers are preoccupied with their run D duties.
Your last sentence suggests the opposite, playing the pass and hoping you are in position for the run.
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Don't know about "historically" but this year PATs are just Average.

PATs allow 1.3 more yards on a PA play than a non-PA play which is the NFL average.

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Well first there are way too many variables going into that stat to make it extremely useful, although 'average' isn't much of a statement.
Of course being average on play action when being less than average on all pass defense would support that our scheme handles pa well.
Like I said, our scheme and philopshy is conducive to defending PA because we typically do not ask our safeties to make plays up near the los in the running game.
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I dont think we disgusie coverages any less than we used to. Some of the NFLN and ESPN shows have started to point out these examples as they analyze our D (seems they analyze it a lot more when it does well).
The ameboid is more of a disguising the rush. I'm not sure why we don't do that, but it seems like discipline is a work in progress for our defense, so that may well be why.
I understand what the amoeba is - the term " or even" was used in my earlier post to distinguish it from just disguising pass coverages, but I obviously didn't 't express myself well. My apologies for not being clearer.

Regardless, confusion may be one way to slow down play action - make it harder for Schaub to read the defense, either the coverage or the pass rush.
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