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Old 10-15-2012, 12:46 AM   #1
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How do you think this dink and dunk offense affects our defense in practice??? McCourty was great against the deep ball when he had Randy Moss to practice against in training camp and preseason. Post-Moss, we have all but abadoned the deep ball. Could it be that our secondary isnt getting enough practice reps against the deep ball? I think so. Both McCourty and Chung have degressed in recent years.

Where is the blitz? When Matt Patrcia saw that we couldnt cover deep, he shouldve started blitzing. It wouldve been the only way to stop those deep passes, which seemed almost automatic 50 yard gains. Furthermore, why drop Mayo in coverage 5 yards when Seattle barely threw any undernath passes? Matt Patricias inability to adapt and make adjustments as the game went on was horrible.

Continuing to throw 56 times when you have the lead late in the game was laughable. I thought Bill Obrien was back for a minute there. All that predictable throwing led to INTs when we couldve had a garaunteed 3 points on the board and put the game out of reach. It also left enough time on the clock for seattle to catch up. Bad coaching once again.



And finally..... The worst of them all. Leaving points on the board before half time! BB took forever to call time out, the team wasted time running up to the LOS, and then finally called TO. We mustve lost a good 10 seconds off the clock, which led to us not getting a FG.



Yes BB is the best ever, but today was an all around horrible coaching job.
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Brady had a so-so to bad day today...he blew it at the end of the first half with the intentional grounding....just a mind lock play and he knows it.

I've been waiting all season so far for blitz schemes of ANY kind to be used in these "must pass" situations where the other team HAS TO THROW...so far,whether it's Patricia or Belichick, they REFUSE to be anything but vanilla. When the opponent begins holding every down and no calls are being made shouldn't someone say "hey, rushing four ain't gonna get it done!"...you tell me, WTF is the difference if Ebner comes on a safety blitz and rushes the QB's throw as opposed to letting a WR just run a go right by him for 46 yards??

I don't know the answer...I'd rather go down fighting than go down scratching my head though...
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Ohyeah.... Brady is lucky he only threw 2 picks. With all the tipped balls and almost-INTs he couldve easily have thrown 4 or 5 picks.

Yet the playcalling still had him throwing a career high 56 times in rainy weather, despite having a decent lead. At what point is enough, enough?

I hated todays playcalling on both sides of the ball. Im losing faith in both coordinators
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Lloyd was beating these scrubs quite often. Chung has been working against AH and Gronk for two seasons now - i think he might be ****tier now. Having nobody to practice against is quite a stretch considering our offense.
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Ohyeah.... Brady is lucky he only threw 2 picks. With all the tipped balls and almost-INTs he couldve easily have thrown 4 or 5 picks.

Yet the playcalling still had him throwing a career high 56 times in rainy weather, despite having a decent lead. At what point is enough, enough?
To be fair. The running game was doing absolutely nothing after Bolden went out.
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To be fair, when we're about to run the ball it's completely obvious we're about to do so.
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To be fair, when we're about to run the ball it's completely obvious we're about to do so.
Our O-line got owned in the running game. On 3rd and short we still throw because our feature back averages 2 ypc and the O-line can't get any push at all.

Credit to the SEA D i guess.
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Brady had a so-so to bad day today...he blew it at the end of the first half with the intentional grounding....just a mind lock play and he knows it.

I've been waiting all season so far for blitz schemes of ANY kind to be used in these "must pass" situations where the other team HAS TO THROW...so far,whether it's Patricia or Belichick, they REFUSE to be anything but vanilla. When the opponent begins holding every down and no calls are being made shouldn't someone say "hey, rushing four ain't gonna get it done!"...you tell me, WTF is the difference if Ebner comes on a safety blitz and rushes the QB's throw as opposed to letting a WR just run a go right by him for 46 yards??

I don't know the answer...I'd rather go down fighting than go down scratching my head though...
I don't have the tape or anything but there were a few times in that game were we got rushers into the pocket and Russel just evaded them. He broke out of the pocket, bought himself some time, and made accurate throws. Not sure how you game plan for that with a guy who only has a few games against NFL defenses on tape.

Early in the game Spikes was out in coverage and Wilson just threw a great pass out to what I think was his TE jumping over Spikes outstretched arm. The scheme challenged a rookie QB to throw into tight coverage, the rookie just made a good pass. I don't know if that was characteristic of the whole game, I'm really new to the actual X's and O's of football, but I thought it showed that Wilson isn't a total pushover.

As for Ebner, that was not something the coaches ever wanted to happen. Gregory was already out and Chung and Moore went down. Ebner was the last man up and I don't think you send a blitzer in a situation that clearly calls for bend but don't break scheme. It really sucks that him and Tavon were out there at the same time, but you can't have a perfect plan for every situation. To me there was no obvious better choice in how they played that.

If we can get to the playoffs we'll always have plenty of tape on an opposing QB, and our rookies will have 2 to 3 times the experience of playing in the NFL as they do now. It might not be enough, but it is enough reason to believe we will get better.

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The offensive playcalling was the worse today. Even if the run game is ineffective, you got to pound at it. But the worst part of the game is after they decided to waste seattle's timeouts instead of trying to score. Two ineffective runs followed by an incompletion helped seattle so much. It would have been a perfect time to run a screen etc. It felt like we purposely put the game in our defenses hands when we should have been fighting to get into field goal position.

Also, i have thought the same thing about the lack of deep passes in practice. We are allergic to throwing deep bombs. I don't get why we have to wait till we are desparate to even attempt one to lloyd. But guess what, the last guy in branch is tossed one.

One last thing. These are the games where i think brady should scramble for 4 yards here and there to keep us out of 3rd and long. I truly feel that brady has more clear field in front of him more than any qb in the history of the game. Running qbs can only dream of getting the defensive looks he gets sometimes. I feel that brady would rareley run even if all 11 players dropped into coverage 90% of the time.
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..WTF is the difference if Ebner comes on a safety blitz and rushes the QB's throw as opposed to letting a WR just run a go right by him for 46 yards??

I don't know the answer...I'd rather go down fighting than go down scratching my head though...

Ebner sucks in other ways…but that 46 yard bomb was 100% on Mr. Tavon Wilson.
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