ARE YOU NEW HERE? NOT LOGGED IN? PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT AND LOGIN TO REMOVE THIS WINDOW
Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification window. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!
What could possibly be your reasoning for not being sold on Williams?
Is Williams that much more of a prized free agent than Adalius was in 2007?
Not saying he would turn out to be a resentful S.O.B. like Thomas, but it is risky when you are spending huge $$$$ on ONE player to be the savior of your defense.
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Last edited by jmt57; 03-07-2012 at 04:45 PM..
FEATURED ADVERTISEMENT
DONATE TO PATSFANS.COM
RECEIVE A FREE PATS T-SHIRT AND SAVE 15% OFF WHEN YOU BUY FROM THE OFFICIAL PROSHOP!
Free T-Shirt & Save 15% Off!
Like Our Site? Please help support our site and server costs by DONATING TO PATSFANS.COM and receive a FREE PATRIOTS T-SHIRT and SAVE 15% off EVERY purchase you make from PatriotsProShop.com. You'll also receive added benefits to your account including Removing All Ads During Your Experience Here At Our Forum.
NEEDED YEARLY SITE DONATIONS: 345 | CURRENT # OF SUBSCRIBED SUPPORTERS: 98
Yes, Thomas was a versatile cog, Williams is an elite difference maker along the same mold as Peppers.
Thomas played great in 2007 and even during the Superbowl he made some plays. After that it went downhill.
Even Peppers would have been an experiment in our defense, but he was such an athletic freak it was worth talking about. Williams is definitely not on Peppers' level athletically or production-wise, so I'm not seeing a large investment in him.
Is Williams that much more of a prized free agent than Adalius was in 2007?
Not saying he would turn out to be a resentful S.O.B. like Thomas,but it is risky when you are spending huge $$$$ on ONE player to be the savior of your defense.
The comment I responded too said they were OK with spending the big money just not on Williams. I noted in a earlier response I think the wiser thing to do would be to spread out the money. That said I would love to have Mario on this team but at what cost?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deus Irae
I question his ability to cover as an OLB in the BB 3-4. At 290, he's big for the position, buy you don't want him playing a 3-4 DE in the 2 gap system, either. So, in order to bring him in, the Patriots are either gambling on him as an oversized OLB or they're scrapping the return to the 3-4, which means that Williams would be hurting Spikes' future prospects.
Well I guess those are some pretty valid points. I guess I would throw out two counter points I know it was for a short time but I thought he was said to be thriving in the Phillips 3-4 (which is different than ours but still) and how much coverage do you honestly remember Willie giving or even how much coverage did you get from Colvin or Vrable?
Mostly the OLBs are asked to cover in the flats when they do cover and I think Mario has the skills to do that. He certainly is not running down field with backs and TEs.
OK I lied a third counterpoint would be that even if we play 3-4 on first down without him I would still love to have him as a sub rusher which in the past you would say was not worth the investment but the reality is we were in our sub D more than our base. (probably too much money for someone who is not every down player but this is worst case scenario).
__________________
"We go down to New Orleans, and ain't anybody give us a chance? Nobody! And what did we say to them?"
Yes, Thomas was a versatile cog, Williams is an elite difference maker along the same mold as Peppers.
Thomas played great in 2007 and even during the Superbowl he made some plays. After that it went downhill.
AT had 5 tackles and 2 sacks in the SB, and he should have had a 3rd on the Tyree play but he was held around his neck (no call, of course). He didn't just "make some plays" in that game....he was a monster.
Well I guess those are some pretty valid points. I guess I would throw out two counter points I know it was for a short time but I thought he was said to be thriving in the Phillips 3-4 (which is different than ours but still) and how much coverage do you honestly remember Willie giving or even how much coverage did you get from Colvin or Vrable?
Colvin learned to cover. Vrabel was capable in coverage. Willie was playing the elephant at a time where the rest of the defense could make up for his coverage issues, which weren't as bad as Williams' are likely to be.
Quote:
Originally Posted by signbabybrady
Mostly the OLBs are asked to cover in the flats when they do cover and I think Mario has the skills to do that. He certainly is not running down field with backs and TEs.
It was only a small sample but, when I saw Williams, I didn't see a player capable of playing much coverage.
Quote:
Originally Posted by signbabybrady
OK I lied a third counterpoint would be that even if we play 3-4 on first down without him I would still love to have him as a sub rusher which in the past you would say was not worth the investment but the reality is we were in our sub D more than our base. (probably too much money for someone who is not every down player but this is worst case scenario).
Yeah, you don't drop $16 million on a sub rusher who hasn't registered even 10 sacks in any of the last 3 seasons. Hell, for that matter, you don't drop that kind of cash on a full-time pass rusher who hasn't registered even 10 sacks in any of the last 3 seasons. That's my take, anyway.
__________________
"The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."
- Marcus Aurelius
Marcus Trufant will be increasing the CB free agent pool by one:
Quote:
Danny O’Neil of the Seattle Times reports that cornerback Marcus Trufant met with the team on Wednesday and that his release will be announced later in the day.
As a cut, he won't have to wait until FA starts to start looking for a job. He could be one of those nickels (maybe a dime).
__________________
"The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."
- Marcus Aurelius
11Likes
Re: Five Nickels or a Quarter
Linear Mode
