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Old 12-27-2011, 08:16 PM   #31
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There have only been about 25K votes cast, but do not expect Brady to make it in this poll...
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:24 PM   #32
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Amazing

Brady is getting hosed, but I can't believe the results.
Ehh, what do they know?

The same poll on the main page of this site has Brady 46%, Rodgers 37% and Brees 16% right now.


Frankly I'm not really surprised. The national media has been focused on (a) Rodgers, (b) Brees, (c) Rodgers vs Brees, and (d) 'oh yeah, there's that Tom Brady guy too'. And as far as fan voting goes, don't underestimate the power of the 'we're sick of Brady', 'we're sick of the Patriots' sentiment.

It does deserve to be closer, but really it's between Rodgers and Brees - even without the media attention on the Packers and Rodgers.
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Rodgers is clearly the MVP. His stats and team record both come out on top.
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Anybody think they'll go with the CO-MVP ?

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Rodgers is going to win the MVP i could even see him playing a full game vs the lions cause he has a outside shot at Brady's TD record
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the clear cut Most Valueable Player (MVP) is Peyton Manning. Without him in the line-up the colts have only won 2 games. He is missed for sure and the moxt valueable
Give any team Curtis painter or Dan orlovosky and they don't win many games. It's the colts fault for not having another competent qb.
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Stats certainly make the case for Brees and Rodgers to be the MVP leaders this year. Just wish other stats where shown on top of those numbers (ie. pass defenses faced). Include that one little stat and Brady looks a little more impressive than the others.

Top 5 PD faced:

Rodgers - 0
Brees - 1 (Texans)
Brady - 3 (Steelers, Jets x2)


Top 10 PD faced:

Rodgers - 3 (Rams, Chiefs, Chargers)
Brees - 3 (Texans, Rams, Jaguars)
Brady - 6 (Steelers, Jets x2, Eagles, Chiefs, Chargers)



Bottom 5 PD faced:

Rodgers - 5 (Vikings x2, Bears x2, Saints)
Brees - 3 (Packers, Bears, Vikings)
Brady - 0


Bottom 10 PD faced:

Rodgers - 8 (Vikings x2, Bears x2, Saints, Giants, Raiders, Buccaneers)
Brees - 6 (Packers, Bears, Vikings, Giants, Buccaneers x2)
Brady - 5 (Dolphins x2, Giants, Raiders, Cowboys)



I can go a little further and look at games in which the team was indoors and didn't have to face the opponent on top of the elements.

Rodgers - 3 dome games
Brees - 11 dome games
Brady - 0 dome games

There are a lot of factors that allow for stats to be padded, and they aren't recognized a whole lot. There can be a very strong case for Brady for MVP this year, but that case will remain locked up in a cabinet and forgotten about. People are tired of Brady and want a new story. So let the people have their new MVP hero, Brady will get his recognition for this season hopefully when the superbowl rolls around.
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Anybody think they'll go with the CO-MVP ?
I do. It's the chicken**** way out of this. Brees is the sentimental favorite because he broke the yardage record and got dissed when they gave it to Manning. Rodgers has overall had the better season with less weapons than Drew, so it's kinda hard to give it to Brees over him. Co-MVPs.
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I wouldnt say clear cut at all. If you have the ability to not be a prisoner of the moment, and look at where you are playing (dome vs out doors) who you are playing with, and who you play against you'd see Brady is just about number 1.

Take in the fact that regardless of what we are told, the MVP is a team award. If Brady had even and average D, the pats would be 15-0 in all likelyhood and Rodgers and Brees would be afterthoughts, even if Brady had the exact same stats as he has at 12-3

just sayin.
I agree on your "15--0 (or even 14--1) vs. 12--3 point," but the "dome vs out doors" point is just we Pats fans whining. And, Rodgers plays in a pretty "out doors" venue there at Lambeau.
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This is a beauty contest and reflects the fact that Brees and Rodgers have gotten a lot more media coverage this year. Plus, Brady got some negative coverage from a few rocky games with picks that got a lot of attention.

Add to that the fact that he was the first and only unanimous MVP selection just a season ago and I really don't find this that "amazing" at all.
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