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Old 05-16-2008, 07:06 PM   #1
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His stage name on the soap opera, was Rok Hoover.. So enjoy his response that he just sent me


>
> If you read my email, where was the rule form 00-06,
> the coach recieved the memo-06 ..The organization
> never said that we taped divisional opponets.. Those
> knee operations that you got all these yrs getting to
> your brain... Mark you and the 2 morons man girl and
> meat ball just love to hear themselves talk.. Get a
> clue
> sean-

this is a long standding rule a reminder was sent out in 06 and 07 that
the Pats choose to ignore! It's Illegal to tape signals...The Pats have
been doing it for 8 years...building a file on all teams. Do you think
they were doing it for fun? If you could read the defensive signals and
call your offensive plays accordingly, could it be an advantage? This is
not about the Broncos or anybody else who has been caught circumventing
the rules. It's about what the Pats did, and if you think it could be ban
advantage...Don't be angry with me because I feel that they gained an un
fair advantage over their opponents...Had they simply stopped their
illegal tapings when they were asked to in 2006 and 2007 we woulden't be
having this exchange...This is not biased reporting or jealousy, I have 3
world championship rings...It's just my opinion that people who don't live
in Boston will always wonder about the Pats Championships and if they
cheated to get them...

The truth hurts and I think deep down Pats fans know something went down
and it hurts...I appreciate all the passion of the Pats fans and if you
want to hate me for my honest opinion be my guest!

P.S. This is a canned response trying to answer the major points brought
by the Boston Nation...Over the last 3 days I've returned over 200 emails
and I will be away from a computer for the next few days.
>
> " Well Done is better than Well Said" > Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 09:55:12
> -0400> Subject: Re: Your a moron...> From: mark@markschlereth.com> To:
> seanpapatriot@hotmail.com> > >> > Mark tell me where there was rule that
> taping a game in 00-06 , you are> > just a pats hater, you should not
> throw a rock in glass houses.. Show some> > more class " Well Done is
> better than Well Said"> >
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Old 05-16-2008, 07:15 PM   #2
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Patriot fans, you/we need to stop all this talk of it being OK to tape before 2006.
The memo was sent out to tell everybody to knock it off, that there will be enforcement coming if it continued.

That said, Shlereth is a moron to say that the Patriots have files on teams that can be used.
Give me a break. I know he can't be that dumb to think teams don't change signals...and often. Very often.
We have more than enough ammo on many, many points and don't need to try and speak to pre-memo rules.
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Patriot fans, you/we need to stop all this talk of it being OK to tape before 2006.
The memo was sent out to tell everybody to knock it off, that there will be enforcement coming if it continued.

That said, Shlereth is a moron to say that the Patriots have files on teams that can be used.
Give me a break. I know he can't be that dumb to think teams don't change signals...and often. Very often.
We have more than enough ammo on many, many points and don't need to try and speak to pre-memo rules.

I call it scouting, if it was used in the game then it is cheating, but I call it scouting since it could not be used in game
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Old 05-16-2008, 07:30 PM   #4
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Mods feel free to move this thread in the Mark Scheleth thread that was started yesterday, thank you...
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Patriot fans, you/we need to stop all this talk of it being OK to tape before 2006.
The memo was sent out to tell everybody to knock it off, that there will be enforcement coming if it continued.
...um, correct me if I'm wrong. Does that mean pre-memo there was an agreed no-enforcement?

Maybe I'm a blind Patriots homer and need you to set me right.
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...um, correct me if I'm wrong. Does that mean pre-memo there was an agreed no-enforcement?

Maybe I'm a blind Patriots homer and need you to set me right.
I wouldn't go that far.
But it seems pretty clear to me that it was on the books that you couldn't tape from the sidelines.
Just my opinion.
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I wouldn't go that far.
But it seems pretty clear to me that it was on the books that you couldn't tape from the sidelines.
Just my opinion.


I just feel , that what is the difference from those tapes and coaches tapes.. No difference, now if they are using it during a game.. Yeah that is cheating, but those tapes no way could be used in game ...
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Patriot fans, you/we need to stop all this talk of it being OK to tape before 2006.
The memo was sent out to tell everybody to knock it off, that there will be enforcement coming if it continued.

That said, Shlereth is a moron to say that the Patriots have files on teams that can be used.
Give me a break. I know he can't be that dumb to think teams don't change signals...and often. Very often.
We have more than enough ammo on many, many points and don't need to try and speak to pre-memo rules.
If you read the rule, you'd realize that the rule said it was OK to tape.

Secondly, the NFL also said it was OK to tape after they sent the memo because they said what the Phins and Jets did was OK.

Learn something first and then come back.

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I wouldn't go that far.
But it seems pretty clear to me that it was on the books that you couldn't tape from the sidelines.
Just my opinion.
How is it clear to you?

Did you read the rule?

It's clear to most people that the rule said YOU COULD as long as you didn't use it in the game.

Read the rule.
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I agree the tapes weren't used in-game, and that's the major point.
Walsh would have loved to squeel about handing over tapes at halftime, but he said it never happened.
I'm surprised he didn't just lie and say he did.
Belichick, who doesn't like to speak more than he has to, vehemently denied tapes were used in the game being played.

Schlereth keeps speaking as though it's fact the Patriots used the tapes in the same game even though everyone, even the Patriot hater Matt Walsh, said the tapes stayed in the camera until the end of the games.
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