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Old 09-30-2011, 09:46 AM   #31
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Old 09-30-2011, 09:49 AM   #32
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Umm...they're running a vanilla defense, from a standard 1-gap 4-3 formation that most of these guys have played within since high school. We're not talking about the crazy schemes from the days of 03 and 04. You've heard it from their own mouths..."my job is just to kill the QB" and stuff like that.

I just don't but the argument that they need time to gel, unless you're saying they're applying something slippery to their jerseys right before kickoff...
I tend to agree, I might feel differently if we were talking about the secondary, but with the D line, three weeks into the season, I am not sure I see why time to gel is needed, especially most of the D line are veterans. In obvious passing downs, beat your man and get to the QB.
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After 3 games last year, the Pats were 2-1 and the defense was a disaster coming off consecutive shreddings by Mark Sanchez and Ryan Fitzpatrick.

They made some changes, some guys stepped up, and they progressed to the point where they were a pretty decent unit. It was an extrememly flawed defense but one that was good enough to support the Pats elite offense. It was not good enough to win games if someone shut down the offense either by out playing them or out scheming them.

I can see that development happening again which given this year's offense - more explosive but also not likely to have the historic low turnover level of last years- should be more than good enough to win a lot of games, make the playoffs, and compete for the division and HFA. Then the hope is Tom Brady and the offense roll off 3-4 great performances in a row in January/February.

If we are expecting to see this defense gel into more than that, I certainly hope it does but don't think it is very likely. There are a lot of holes personnel wise.
According to stats from Comcast,through the first 3 games last year,the defense who was ranked low in 2010 was allowing something like 380 YPG and 19.8 points allowed...this year it is 468 YPG and 26 points allowed......that's alarming,especially considering Bill made moves to improve that,not make it worse.
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Just one second sooner?

That's like a pitcher saying he just needs another 15 mph on his fastball before he's effective.
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According to stats from Comcast,through the first 3 games last year,the defense who was ranked low in 2010 was allowing something like 380 YPG and 19.8 points allowed...this year it is 468 YPG and 26 points allowed......that's alarming,especially considering Bill made moves to improve that,not make it worse.
In game 2 they gave up 28 points and 21/30 220 yards and 3 TD to Mark Sanchez. In game 3 they gave up 30 points and 374 yards to Buffalo. The defense was really bad at the start of last year too.
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According to stats from Comcast,through the first 3 games last year,the defense who was ranked low in 2010 was allowing something like 380 YPG and 19.8 points allowed...this year it is 468 YPG and 26 points allowed......that's alarming,especially considering Bill made moves to improve that,not make it worse.
380 Yards and 27 PPG was what it looks like it was through 3 games last year.

24 pts 428 yds vs Cicny
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According to stats from Comcast,through the first 3 games last year,the defense who was ranked low in 2010 was allowing something like 380 YPG and 19.8 points allowed...this year it is 468 YPG and 26 points allowed......that's alarming,especially considering Bill made moves to improve that,not make it worse.
For last year;

You're correct on yards allowed, but Ahhh. You need to find another WEBSITE FOR STATS for points.

First three games - points allowed (24, 28, 30) - Average 27.33

First three games - Yards allowed (428 336, 374) - Average 379

We were actually giving up MORE points per game then we have this year so far.
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LOL. It's not quite that bad, but it's pretty bad right now. I think the defense needs to work more in sync. Once they are working as one, then we're gonna see more results. Although there are vet players on the d-line now, they need time to get used to each other and the system.

As for Cunningham's disappearing act, I dunno, it's got to be an injury right? Otherwise there's no excuse. We were counting on him as a starter for 2011. And he can't even beat out Ninkovich or see any snaps on an injury ravaged DL?
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God, this board is seriously unbearable after a loss. A lot of you guys just suck at being fans, frankly. We're not entitled to a 14-2 team with a perfect combination of youth and experience and no exploitable weaknesses every year.
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