MoLewisrocks

What a disingenuous load of bs from the saintliest HC in the league...

The consolation is the Football God doesn't but it either, which is why the strategy didn't have the desired result, again. Unfortunately this mediot didn't take advantage of his opportunity to ask Tony whether he and Jeff pre-agreed not to contest this game to it's finish...

http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/17180276.html

Get out the violins...

the next week was your bye week, Tony



situational ethics, the name of the game in the NFL...

disingenuous phony that he is



Or how can a team play to win when they play Jim Sorgi for three and a half quarters in spite of a bye?

Sounds like an alternate interpretation to me...

Oh, yes you can Tony...

indycolts685

I just have one question and I am not flaming you in anyway. Why are people still making a big deal out of this when other teams and coaches do this ever single year? Including the Pats against the Dolphins a few years ago, this is nothing new, it happens every year, The Jags did it this year and a few other teams but people only want to bring up the Colts. The Browns situation is totally not the Colts problem. Now if the Colts had played there starters and Manning suffered a season ending injury then everybody would be calling Dungy and the Colts the dumbest team in the league for playing starters. Just curious, not looking for a flame war or anything.

I for one wish we would have played our starters at least a little more to try and win the game.

SVN

lets see if PFT picks this up and calls him out...

Keegs

Tony Dungy is a good person (typed with as much sarcasm as humanly possible)

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DaBruinz

People are making an issue of it because of the word that came out that Dungy and Fisher agreed on the outcome of the game PRIOR to the game occuring. So that the Titans could make the play-offs and keep the Browns out.

Had Dungy played his normal starters for much of the game and pulled them in the 4th, that would have been a different story. But, the fact is that he threw the game. He wasn't trying to win.

indycolts685

There was just speculation about an agreement, and nothing more, The only thing the Colts did was not call a timeout at the end of the game and try and let Sorgi drive the colts down the field with less then a min left in the game when for the entire game he was lucky to get 5 yards. I guess if Dungy called that one timeout then nobody would still be talking about it.

I just can't see any coach in the NFL having any kind of agreement to tank a game, not Dungy or anybody, or course being a Colts fan thats to be expected.

and for the record of course Im not a Pats fan and I am not buying into this spygate crap either (I don't think the Pats did anything illegal) it would be nice for that to come to a close once and for all..

flasox27

I think throwing games casts a significantly higher shadow on the integrity of the league than filming from an unnacceptable spot. Too bad we have a commissioner that doesn't give a rat's butt about anything other punishing the Pats.

PatsWickedPissah

It's a big deal because sanctimonious Tony D has been annointed as 'Mr Integrity' by himself and the mediots. Given this exaulted position, the defense of 'all the other teams do it too' is not available.

Based upon time out calls etc. in that game and the value to the Tits of keeping the Browns outa the playoffs, serious questions about a pre-game agreement are germain. Too bad the media considers Saint Dungy out of bounds for such questions. It IS a big deal for teams to collude such that another team's playoff appearance is affected.

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MoLewisrocks

There was actually a playoff berth at stake for two teams, as opposed to most rest scenarios including when we rested players vs. Miami because WE DID NOT have a bye. There was an outside chance had we won that a seeding change would have ensued, but that was not at our discretion since it would have required another team who played later to lose and they did not. Here the implications were clear, and there were underlying concerns regarding how relationships (between Dungy and competition committee member Fisher) and statements (the Tennessee backup QB stating they knew TO's would not be called and Dungy proclaiming three playoff teams emerging from the AFCS was somehow significant IHO) created the perception of impropriety due to potential collusion regarding the outcome.

It's also an issue for Pat's fans because if some mediot asked BB to comment on the situation he would decline and say it's a league matter or none of his business - while Dungy has never met another teams/coaches situation he is unwilling to comment on...

indycolts685

The Pats did the same exact same thing a few years ago against the Dolphins, I don't remember the teams involved but losing that game let the Pats play a team that BB wanted to play over the other. I didn't care and still don't, the Pats earned that right by being in that position, just like the Colts earned the right to rest players. I can't say for 100% there was or wasn't an agreement, but I seriously doubt it. But I am sure you would expect no less from a Colts fan. Again I am not trying to start crap on here, just having a civil discussion about the matter...off seasons are just way too long