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Old 07-20-2011, 06:51 PM   #1
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Old 07-20-2011, 07:35 PM   #2
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But in the end, the real douchebag is Ron Borges, for making shyte up. Not one of those players have come out and said they've asked for special privileges.
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I have to say, that article didn't make a ton of sense to me.

Manning signing for as much money as he can possibly get is good for all NFL players because that "trickles down" and elevates everybody else's salaries? Huh? Has he not heard of that pesky salary cap?
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I have to say, that article didn't make a ton of sense to me.

Manning signing for as much money as he can possibly get is good for all NFL players because that "trickles down" and elevates everybody else's salaries? Huh? Has he not heard of that pesky salary cap?
Patchick - It trickles down in the idea that the Franchise tag will rise significantly for that position.

Yes, there is a salary cap, but look around the league. The franchise number for guards is astounding now. The numbers for other players continues to rise.
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Patchick - It trickles down in the idea that the Franchise tag will rise significantly for that position.

Yes, there is a salary cap, but look around the league. The franchise number for guards is astounding now. The numbers for other players continues to rise.
It makes sense that top player's contract trickles down to the other elite players at his position. But is that really good for the majority of union members?
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It makes sense that top player's contract trickles down to the other elite players at his position. But is that really good for the majority of union members?
Well, in all honesty, probably yes. When you think about the fact that the contracts of the blind-side protector are directly influenced by the contract of contract of the quarterback. And the quaterbacks also affect the wide receivers.

It gives the other players reasons to excel. Because they know that if they do, they'll get more money. Yes, some do. Some don't. But every year there are players who make that leap that were unexpected. Miles Austin comes to mind. Malcolm Floyd is another. BJGE.
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Well, in all honesty, probably yes. When you think about the fact that the contracts of the blind-side protector are directly influenced by the contract of contract of the quarterback. And the quaterbacks also affect the wide receivers.

It gives the other players reasons to excel. Because they know that if they do, they'll get more money. Yes, some do. Some don't. But every year there are players who make that leap that were unexpected. Miles Austin comes to mind. Malcolm Floyd is another. BJGE.
But trickling down can't be a net gain because of the cap.
If teams are at the cap (or there budget) every $1mill given to one player is a combined 1 mill taken away from another.
The total cumulative salaries are unaffected.
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I'm with Patchick and Andy here and it really seems pretty obvious IMO.

The salary cap, by definition, limits the total amount paid to the players. So if the top guys get more it's less for the bottom guys. I'm sure the top guys in the league were in favor of backing up Jackson and Mankins and the other 80% were against it.
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It is this simple, if he signs with the Patriots he is a great guy, if he leaves the guy is a grade A douche.
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Yeah, I don't buy Cole's lame argument at all. He was in a much stronger position if he had said that Peyton Manning earning a big salary and continuing to play at a high level earns the NFL an ever increasing amount of revenue that benefits players. Put the onus on Manning's performance, and then I'd buy the argument that it makes a difference.

Trickle down? No.

What's the opposite of trickle down anyway? We need a new metaphor. I think the guy from "There Will Be Blood" said it best: "I Drink Your Milkshake"
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