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Old 02-05-2008, 02:31 PM   #11
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07 pats is like a brillian person who has the ablity to do all great things in this world but he fails because of other people and factors.

It is a big loss for everybody.
And we learned that America hates people that succeed. The hate and vile nature we have seen after this is a direct reflection in much of our society. The Media loves to tear down the people at the top. And revelled in this way too much.
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Old 02-05-2008, 02:32 PM   #12
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It hasn't bothered me that much, and I don't think it has anything to do with your stated reasons. I think for me it is all about perspective.

NE has won three titles this decade, and the Sox just won their second in 4 years. I didn't need this win to feel good about my sports teams.

My wife will say that I just have a much better grasp of how unimportant sports are in the big picture (even as I'm preparing her for a long summer of watching baseball. bwahaha).

This season was a fun ride, and I'm happy I witnessed it.
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Why do you think the world hates the patriots?
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First let me say that I was at the game. So I paid a lot of money to watch this loss. Even with that being said, as my sister & I walked out of the stadium, neither of us felt nearly as bad as we thought we would.

I think that is attributable to:

1. The first three quarters were unenjoyable and stressful to watch. So much so that I was just relieved for the game to be over, one way or the other.

2. Pats were outplayed & outcoached and deserved to lose. This was in marked contrast to the loss to the Colts last year. In that game, with a 21-3 lead, my emotions were already sky high expecting a win, so losing felt that much worse. In this game, at no point did I think NE would win. Even when they scored at the end, I didn't feel safe.

3. Giants are kind of a milquetoast team. Not like the sting of losing to the Colts or Cowboys or similar team.

All in all, of course losing completely sucked, but I just didn't feel as bad as I thought, despite the historical once-in-a-lifetime implications.

Anyone else in a similar boat?
I agree with all 3 statements. The game was stressful, we played terribly to the point of not deserving it, and the Giants are a team I don't really feel the sting of losing to compared to others. On top of that, I don't think the Giants are going to be some perennial threat. They're probably a one and done.

But you're ignoring the 19-0 aspect, which is the reason I still feel like crap.
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Old 02-05-2008, 02:40 PM   #15
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Only in the sense that I am remarkably unbothered by this. Doesn't eat at me nearly as much as I'd expected. Maybe I'm finally growing up

I do wish you could get a refund though...


It bothered me as it happened, but it was really more a frustration than anything. They were one play away from hanging on to barely win a game in which they looked worse than I've ever seen them look in the playoffs. And they didn't make it.

Denver bothered me more because it was a game we should have won against an inferior opponent who didn't play very well and it was this uncharacteristic series of gaffs that resembled a tightly wound ball of yarn unraveling and not even Watson could catch it before it was too late...

Indy bothered me way more because we had already pulled off the emotional upset against SD and had the game thoroughly in hand from the outset despite an overwhelming talent imbalance on offense and just Rex Grossman standing between us and #4 when the wheels fell off the defense and the offense turned back into the pumpkin it truly was. And of course there was the matter of knowing we'd just literally handed Peyton his first ring.

This was certainly stunning, but soimehow it doesn't have the ominous almost finality to it that those others seemed to conjure up. I think the first 18 muted that part of the blow. Plus we don't have the 2 week runup to someone else's superbowl. Plus I think the spygate crap over the weekend had already sucked a little of the life out of us to some extent.


Either way, I'm just ready to move on. Fascinated (maybe morbidly) to see what transpires as the 2008 edition of the NEP hits the assembly line.
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It bothered me as it happened, but it was really more a frustration than anything. They were one play away from hanging on to barely win a game in which they looked worse than I've ever seen them look in the playoffs. And they didn't make it.

Denver bothered me more because it was a game we should have won against an inferior opponent who didn't play very well and it was this uncharacteristic series of gaffs that resembled a tightly wound ball of yarn unraveling and not even Watson could catch it before it was too late...

Indy bothered me way more because we had already pulled off the emotional upset against SD and had the game thoroughly in hand from the outset despite an overwhelming talent imbalance on offense and just Rex Grossman standing between us and #4 when the wheels fell off the defense and the offense turned back into the pumpkin it truly was. And of course there was the matter of knowing we'd just literally handed Peyton his first ring.

This was certainly stunning, but soimehow it doesn't have the ominous almost finality to it that those others seemed to conjure up. I think the first 18 muted that part of the blow. Plus we don't have the 2 week runup to someone else's superbowl. Plus I think the spygate crap over the weekend had already sucked a little of the life out of us to some extent.


Either way, I'm just ready to move on. Fascinated (maybe morbidly) to see what transpires as the 2008 edition of the NEP hits the assembly line.
Good posting. You sum up a lot of my emotions. I wasn't even thinking about the Denver loss. That was in ways almost worse than Indy (expect for fact Indy loss handed them a SB as you stated). That was a game NE played much better than Denver yet screwed up a handful of plays that cost them the win they actually deserved.

This time, the Giants simply won and were the better team. That is a much easier loss to stomach.

And as someone else stated above, yes, I'm not factoring in the 19-0 aspect, maybe because it was so unbelievable that it was even attainable in the first place the pursuit still has a dreamlike quality.
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Either way, I'm just ready to move on. Fascinated (maybe morbidly) to see what transpires as the 2008 edition of the NEP hits the assembly line.
I think back to the 2004/2005 Steeler teams. In '04 they went 15-1 and put together an amazing season, and some considered them (potentially) among the best teams ever. In '05 they went 11-5, snuck into the playoffs as the 6-seed, and reeled off 3 straight road wins on the way to winning the SB. Hopefully the Pats can win it all next year even if they don't do nearly as well as the 2007 team.
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All in all, of course losing completely sucked, but I just didn't feel as bad as I thought, despite the historical once-in-a-lifetime implications.
That's pretty much the reason I feel a bad as I do.
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Like some others, I feel bad but I feel amazingly better than I thought I would. And much better than last year's loss.
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It seemed to me that with so many people outside of New England hoping to see the Patriots go down in flames, their only appropriate response was to play their asses off on the field... it was amazing to me to watch The New England Patriots simply go upstream against the rest of the NFL in 2007 and the fact that they went through so much, starting with Spygate and continuing through the season as opponents took their shot at the unbeaten team, only to end up short of their prize just shocks and saddens me.

Now, all of those nay-sayers and haters get to dance around on the blemished record of the Patriots and the I told you so's will begin to inundate fans such as ourselves. I'm not sure what I've missed on espn.com since Sunday, because I simply blocked the website and the eventual TMQ 'comeuppance' column he is likely to write, to name only one of what I'd guess are many.

I shudder to think of what the eventual conclusion to the spying situation will be, given the magnified attention it recieved last week (I agree with previously posted sentiment, that situation takes a big toll on me as well, as a fan.)

After this year, I now believe that going undefeated in the NFL as it is currently comprised will not happen. It leaves me with an empty feeling inside to have seen a truly remarkable and historic accomplishment slip through the hands of Patriots.

Compared to the Indy loss? I think this one hurts more in the long run, because this was supposed to be our answer to our main rival getting a ring. Put it this way, I never suspected to see Tom Brady out Tom Brady'd in the Superbowl.

I guess this loss just helps put into perspective the number of breaks that must go in a team's favor to win a championship, even with a team as magnificently constructed as the 2007 Patriots.
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