I can't really see Moss 23 TDs being eclipsed - New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard
NEWS
|
FORUM
|
PHOTOS
|
VIDEOS
|
FULL STATS DATABASE
|
PODCAST
|
RUMOR MILL
Get Social With PatsFans.com
Early Roster Projection
Ryan's Journey Started Early
POST DRAFT PODCAST

Go Back   New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard > PatsFans.com Forums > PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum
Forgot Password? Join PatsFans.com!
Register Blogs FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Mark Forums Read Chat Room

WELCOME TO OUR FORUM HERE AT PATSFANS.COM!
ARE YOU NEW HERE? NOT LOGGED IN? PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT AND LOGIN TO REMOVE THIS WINDOW

Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification window. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-31-2007, 08:02 PM   #1
Practice Squad
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 394
Default I can't really see Moss 23 TDs being eclipsed

While all records are extremely diffucult to break for obvious reasons, as crazy as it sounds, I think many of us are undervaluing the diffuculty of what Moss accomlished. The record he broke, Rice's 22 TDs, were a mythical number that many thought would never be threatened, let alone eclipsed. It was always seen as one of the unreachable records, an anamoly of a season courtesy of the GOAT WR. Those 22 TDs stood alone and far away with the next closest TD totals being 17-18, NO ONE had even come close to make this a debate, even Rice didnt come close. In an average year, the leading WR in touchdowns gets about 13-14 TDs...the record(now 23) is so out of range that it requires specific things to fall in line. You need the rare talent, and from day 1, its been Moss who people have said had that talent. Then you would need that talent to be put in the right position with the right QB.

I just think too many people have been caught up debating how many games Rice got his 22 in, whether what Moss did was more impressive etc...In reality, we arent appreciating that Moss was the first guy ofher than Rice in '87 to eclipse 20 TD receptions, and actually made us think about Rice's record being in jeopardy. IMO, unless Moss outdoes himself, I think this record will stay in the books for aLOOOOOONG time.

Last edited by Xzibit23; 12-31-2007 at 08:04 PM..
Xzibit23 is offline  
FEATURED ADVERTISEMENT
DONATE TO PATSFANS.COM
RECEIVE A FREE PATS T-SHIRT AND SAVE 15% OFF WHEN YOU BUY FROM THE OFFICIAL PROSHOP!

Free T-Shirt & Save 15% Off!
Like Our Site? Please help support our site and server costs by DONATING TO PATSFANS.COM and receive a FREE PATRIOTS T-SHIRT and SAVE 15% off EVERY purchase you make from PatriotsProShop.com. You'll also receive added benefits to your account
including Removing All Ads During Your Experience Here At Our Forum.

NEEDED YEARLY SITE DONATIONS: 345 | CURRENT # OF SUBSCRIBED SUPPORTERS: 98

Updated 07/08/11

Help Us Reach Our Goal!

Old 12-31-2007, 08:05 PM   #2
Banned
 

Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,669
Default Re: I cant really see Moss 23 TDs being eclipsed

16-0 and 50 TD's is damn hard to do too!

Actually, of these 3 records, the perfect season is the one that happens least frequently.
maverick4 is offline  
Old 12-31-2007, 08:11 PM   #3
Practice Squad
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 394
Default Re: I cant really see Moss 23 TDs being eclipsed

Quote:
Originally Posted by maverick4 View Post
16-0 and 50 TD's is damn hard to do too!

Actually, of these 3 records, the perfect season is the one that happens least frequently.
Dont get me wrong, I'm not comparing records. The 16-0 is obviously the most diffucult, but as a result its the one everyone is talking about, so I dont think I need to mention is diffuculty. With Moss is record it seems more people are consumed with how many games he did it in and arent realizing the diffuculty of getting 23 TDs. IMO, while both records should be around for a while, I think Brady's is more likely to fall.
Xzibit23 is offline  
Old 12-31-2007, 08:13 PM   #4
Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
 
stcjones's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 5,218
My Mood: Stressed
Default Re: I can't really see Moss 23 TDs being eclipsed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xzibit23 View Post
While all records are extremely diffucult to break for obvious reasons, as crazy as it sounds, I think many of us are undervaluing the diffuculty of what Moss accomlished. The record he broke, Rice's 22 TDs, were a mythical number that many thought would never be threatened, let alone eclipsed. It was always seen as one of the unreachable records, an anamoly of a season courtesy of the GOAT WR. Those 22 TDs stood alone and far away with the next closest TD totals being 17-18, NO ONE had even come close to make this a debate, even Rice didnt come close. In an average year, the leading WR in touchdowns gets about 13-14 TDs...the record(now 23) is so out of range that it requires specific things to fall in line. You need the rare talent, and from day 1, its been Moss who people have said had that talent. Then you would need that talent to be put in the right position with the right QB.

I just think too many people have been caught up debating how many games Rice got his 22 in, whether what Moss did was more impressive etc...In reality, we arent appreciating that Moss was the first guy ofher than Rice in '87 to eclipse 20 TD receptions, and actually made us think about Rice's record being in jeopardy. IMO, unless Moss outdoes himself, I think this record will stay in the books for aLOOOOOONG time.
I can't see any of these records being beaten in the near future.....Most importantly the 16-0 PERFECT SEASON.....But even Brady's TD record and Moss' 23 TD's in a season......But you never know.....records were made to be broken I guess......
stcjones is offline  
Old 12-31-2007, 08:21 PM   #5
B.O. = Fugazi
 
BelichickFan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 30,552
Send a message via AIM to BelichickFan
Default Re: I can't really see Moss 23 TDs being eclipsed

They'll be broken - but as Moss said, Rice's record stood for a long time so I doubt it'll be broken right off the bat. The only real threat is the fact that more teams will likely be doing more and more throwing but, yeah, getting two Hall of Fame players like Brady and Moss is what it'll take and that's rare.

I think it was just the coolest thing that Brady and Moss tied and broke their individual records together.
BelichickFan is offline  
Old 12-31-2007, 08:21 PM   #6
PatsFans.com Supporter
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Natick,MA
Posts: 1,119
Default Re: I can't really see Moss 23 TDs being eclipsed

as wil Peyton next season....
__________________
It is what it is......
BigMike is offline  
Old 12-31-2007, 08:22 PM   #7
Practice Squad
 
EasyMac's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 162
Default Re: I can't really see Moss 23 TDs being eclipsed

Quote:
Originally Posted by stcjones View Post
I can't see any of these records being beaten in the near future.....Most importantly the 16-0 PERFECT SEASON.....But even Brady's TD record and Moss' 23 TD's in a season......But you never know.....records were made to be broken I guess......
Of the three records, Brady's TD record is, IMO, most likely to be broken in "the near future". Afterall it didn't take Brady long to surpass Peyton's 49.

But hell, it could be Brady who breaks his own record and Moss who breaks his own as well!
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.... Be My Friend!
EasyMac is offline  
Old 12-31-2007, 08:22 PM   #8
B.O. = Fugazi
 
BelichickFan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 30,552
Send a message via AIM to BelichickFan
Default Re: I can't really see Moss 23 TDs being eclipsed

Quote:
Originally Posted by ColtinIraq View Post
Romo and TO will go after them.
Don't think so. Owens is 34, he's real close to the end despite how good he's looked this year.
BelichickFan is offline  
Old 12-31-2007, 08:26 PM   #9
2nd Team Getting Their First Start
 

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Western MA
Posts: 1,744
Default Re: I can't really see Moss 23 TDs being eclipsed

Quote:
Originally Posted by ColtinIraq View Post
Romo and TO will go after them.
I mean, I think they will "go after it". I mean, which football players, if asked, would say "no, I don't think I'd like to set that record."?

That being said, in TO's best season he recorded 16 TDs (2001). This year he came very close with 15 TDs. To put it in perspective, 23 is ~30% more than 16.
xmarkd400x is offline  
Old 12-31-2007, 08:32 PM   #10
Practice Squad
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 394
Default Re: I can't really see Moss 23 TDs being eclipsed

Quote:
Originally Posted by BelichickFan View Post
They'll be broken - but as Moss said, Rice's record stood for a long time so I doubt it'll be broken right off the bat. The only real threat is the fact that more teams will likely be doing more and more throwing but, yeah, getting two Hall of Fame players like Brady and Moss is what it'll take and that's rare.

I think it was just the coolest thing that Brady and Moss tied and broke their individual records together.
That was beyond cool...it was very symbolic of how one could not have been done without the other. An amazing moment in NFL history, 2 records that may stand for a while being broken on the same play.
Xzibit23 is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Sponsored Links



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

© Copyright 2000-2012. PatsFans.com Is a Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties.
The opinions posted in this forum do not necessarily reflect the opinions of our staff at PatsFans.com or USA Today.
We are not affiliated with the New England Patriots™ or the NFL™. The Photo Used In the header was taken by Ian Logue.

This site is owned and operated by I&K Internet Design Enterprises, LLC