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View Poll Results: Who is the more talented and valuable RB in 2010
D. Woodhead 168 90.32%
L. Tomlinson 18 9.68%
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Old 12-21-2010, 05:09 PM   #1
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Oh no! Not another Danny Woodhead thread. He really has become huge topic of discussion among Patriot Fans.

I was comparing the two players myself and they both play similar roles for their team in that they are a threat out of the backfield, and have the lateral quickness to tear through a defense. Tomlinson is a starting RB and Woodhead is more of a 3rd down back, so Tomlinson has obviously gotten more carries so far this season. I don't think this means that LT is more durable. Woodhead is certainly capable of taking more carries but we do have a HOF QB throwing the ball, so it isn't necessary. One could argue that LT is much more powerful but Danny has shown good strength running through tackles. Woodhead also doesn't have a big mouth.

Who do you think is the more talented and valuable player at this point? We can forget about everything the aging Tomlinson has done in his HOF career, and just focus on each player's skills and production in 2010. If you think that they aren't comparable because Woodhead hasn't gotten enough carries then who do you think is more valuable to their team?

It will be interesting to see how many people think Woodhead is the better player in 2010 considering that one of the Jets biggest acquisitions this offseason was LaDainian Tomlinson and Woodhead was the guy who wasn't good enough.
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Old 12-21-2010, 06:01 PM   #2
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I chose Woodhead. I think I'm the only one who noticed this.

The bigger the game the more Tomlinson doesn't show up. For years, as far back as I can remember him being the talk of the NFL, the bigger the game the more Tomlinson is absent.
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Wait, valuable at what? Playing football or sulking on the bench?
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one of the Jets biggest acquisitions this offseason was LaDainian Tomlinson and Woodhead was the guy who wasn't good enough.
Some of the Pats' best and most notable success stories have featured "guys that weren't good enough"
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Interestingly, Football outsiders' statistic for comparing the two running backs says Woodhead has been way more valuable than Tomlinson
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | RUNNING BACKS 2010

Through week 14, Football outsiders' DYAR stats (an indication of total value of all snaps) for Woodhead is 140 as a rusher and 150 as pass catcher; for Tomlinson the corresponding numbers are 106 and -11.
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I voted Woodhead but if we had Tomlinson I bet he would have an important role here also ... maybe a great role.
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Interestingly, Football outsiders' statistic for comparing the two running backs says Woodhead has been way more valuable than Tomlinson
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | RUNNING BACKS 2010

Through week 14, Football outsiders' DYAR stats (an indication of total value of all snaps) for Woodhead is 140 as a rusher and 150 as pass catcher; for Tomlinson the corresponding numbers are 106 and -11.
Interesting how this turned out for both teams. A signing of a released player that couldn't make the roster more successful than a huge pickup of a future HOF RB. Seems like the majority agree that Woodhead is better in 2010 unless they are just biased towards LT.

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I voted Woodhead but if we had Tomlinson I bet he would have an important role here also ... maybe a great role.
Perhaps it is the Patriots system under BB which results in the success of various no named players. Not referring to Woodhead necessarily, because he has a lot of talent, but it seems that many players are simply just more successful on this team than others. So maybe a player like LT could have had great success here, but I don't think many Pats fans were that high on getting a loud mouth like LT. I wasn't against it back in the off season.

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Try posting this on the Jets forum. I'd love to see their reaction
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Talented *and* valuable? Honestly? Talented -- at his peak: Tomlinson. Valuable: Woodhead.

Tomlinson is beaten up, and on a downhill slide because of it. I hate his attitude, and wouldn't want him on the team. Woodhead has a great attitude, is smart, shows very good skills which promise to get better. Woodhead is more valuable to the Patriots.
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Interestingly, Football outsiders' statistic for comparing the two running backs says Woodhead has been way more valuable than Tomlinson
FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | RUNNING BACKS 2010

Through week 14, Football outsiders' DYAR stats (an indication of total value of all snaps) for Woodhead is 140 as a rusher and 150 as pass catcher; for Tomlinson the corresponding numbers are 106 and -11.
Woodhead achieved his value on far fewer touches. On a per play basis (DVOA), Woodead is 1st ranked at 40.2% rushing to 4.5% for LT's 16th ranking, and Woodhead is also 1st ranked at 61% receiving to LT's -16.5% 48th ranking. Numbers through only through the Chicago game so far.
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