shakadave

I know that draft order is determined by W-L record, and if two (non-playoff) teams are tied, the next tiebreaker is strength of schedule.

Now here's my best guess, but does anyone know if it's right?

Say SF is tied with Cincinnati, and SF played a STRONGER schedule strength than Cinci played. That means SF is considered a BETTER team than Cinci, so that SF picks AFTER Cinci.

On the other hand, if SF played a WEAKER strength of schedule than Cinci, SF is considered the worse team, and drafts AHEAD of Cinci. Pats fans would want this scenario, and I believe SF has played one of the weakest strengths-of-schedule in the whole league.

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BelichickFan

Yes, SF's weak SoS is to OUR benefit. Within a tied record group, the weaker SoS moves up.

scout

To answer your question, I don't know. However, I don't believe we have to worry about Cincy as they will win some games. The Rams play the 49er's this week and could tie them for wins (2). The Jets could beat Miami and would also be tied at 2. Those two teams are the ones where strength of schedule comes into play.

spacecrime

You have it right. Note that this is for Round One. In Round Two and later rounds, the places of tied teams shift, with the team that was picking first in any tied grouping moving the the end of the group, and every other team in the grouping moving up.

I'm sure I said this in the most confusing way possible, but basically, if SF, Cincy and Atlanta are all tied with say, 4-12 records, and SF has the weakest schedule, Cincy the second weakest, and Atlanta the strongest schedule of the three, the order would be:

Round One:
SF
Cincy
Atl

Round 2:
Cincy
Atl
SF

Round 3:
Atl
SF
CIncy

Round 4
SF
Cincy
Atl

ctpatsfan77

I posted this thread last year (w.r.t. SEA):

The rules for draft order seeding

[I'll probably make a new SF-specific version this weekend; hopefully the mods can sticky it here or in the draft forum.]

The short answer to your question, though, is that your hunch is correct--the easier SF's schedule, the higher the pick the Pats will get.

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JoePats

The Rams/9ers game is a huge swing game...The Rams probably can't make up a 2 game deficit with 6 to play...

But if they are tied: obviously two division teams play 14 of the same games and then two different games...

San Fran: Giants, Vikings
St Louis: Cowboys, Packers

So San Fran, based on easier schedule, will definatley pick ahead of St Louis...the only catch is St Louie has a tougher schedule down the stretch.

xmarkd400x

In that case the Pats best go 16-0. Wouldn't that mean that, since they (Phins and Jests) play the Pats twice, their strength of schedule would include two 16 win teams? I'd like SF's odds if the Jests and Phins have 32-0 as part of their SoS.

eom

I think miami wins 2 of these:
balt
buffalo
jets

st louis wins a couple more

san fran doesn't win another game.

jets and oakland are a problem, but I don't know the sos tiebreakers for oak, miami, sf.

maybe pats get second pick.

how the hell does a team go from the playoffs to the worst team in the league in one year?
or from the superbowl......nevermind.

Nordy

Yeah I'm pretty sure that's how it works. The Jets and Fins would have two games against a 16-0 team counted in their SoS. That would be huge.

eom

so, if jets beat miami, and miami beats buffalo and baltimore, then san fran fights it out w/oak on sos for #1 pick?
sweet.